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Feeding a Child Something Forbidden

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	#A parent and/or teacher should generally be careful not to be excessively forceful. There are several cases where Talmudic personalities praised their behavior of not being "makpid"(strict) in their home over their wives and children even though they lived a life filled with mitzvot <ref>Gitin 7a</ref>		#A parent and/or teacher should generally be careful not to be excessively forceful. There are several cases where Talmudic personalities praised their behavior of not being "makpid"(strict) in their home over their wives and children even though they lived a life filled with mitzvot <ref>Gitin 7a</ref>
	#The gedolim have all agreed that hitting children in the name of chinuch is forbidden.<ref>Rav Wolbe in Biyan Uzeriya Bechinuch. Rav Kook in Ayn Ayah Brachot 7a:70</ref>		#The gedolim have all agreed that hitting children in the name of chinuch is forbidden.<ref>Rav Wolbe in Biyan Uzeriya Bechinuch. Rav Kook in Ayn Ayah Brachot 7a:70</ref>

			==Teaching a Child to Swim==

			# There is no technical obligation for a parent to teach his children how to swim.<ref>There is an opinion in Kiddushin 29a that a father must teach his son how to swim. However, Rambam and Shulchan Aruch do not codify this opinion. Rav Chaim Kanievsky (Halichot Chaim p. 173) rules that according to the halacha there's no such obligation to teach a child to swim.</ref>

	==Feeding a Child Something Forbidden==		==Feeding a Child Something Forbidden==

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How Completely Must the Mitzvah Be Performed?

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	#The book of Mishlei says that one should teach his child in a manner which will stick with him forever: “Train up a child in the way he should go, and even when he is old, he will not depart from it.” Rashi comments on this pasuk saying that depending on what you teach him those lessons will affect him the rest of his life. This means that the parent has the responsibility to teach the child life lessons. This belief would suggest that chinuch is a mitzvah for the father, because he is the one who will have the ability to affect his child's future.<ref>Mishlei (22:6) and Rashi there as cited in ShortVort written by D. Fine. Ritva Sukkah 2b s.v. amar rabbi yehuda and Mishna Brurah 343:2 cite Mishlei as the source for chinuch. </ref>		#The book of Mishlei says that one should teach his child in a manner which will stick with him forever: “Train up a child in the way he should go, and even when he is old, he will not depart from it.” Rashi comments on this pasuk saying that depending on what you teach him those lessons will affect him the rest of his life. This means that the parent has the responsibility to teach the child life lessons. This belief would suggest that chinuch is a mitzvah for the father, because he is the one who will have the ability to affect his child's future.<ref>Mishlei (22:6) and Rashi there as cited in ShortVort written by D. Fine. Ritva Sukkah 2b s.v. amar rabbi yehuda and Mishna Brurah 343:2 cite Mishlei as the source for chinuch. </ref>
	#Some rishonim hold that the son isn't obligated in mitzvot at all and it is only father who is obligated to train his son in mitzvot.<ref>Rashi (Brachot 20a s.v. ketanim), Ran (Megillah 6b s.v. rabbi yehuda) citing the Ramban, Ritva (Megillah 19b s.v. hakol), Tosfot Bava Kama 87a s.v. vkein</ref> However, others hold that the child himself is rabbinically obligated in mitzvot.<ref>Tosfot (Megillah 19b s.v. vrabbi yehuda), Tosfot (Brachot 20a s.v. vketanim), Rashba (Brachot 20a s.v. nashim)</ref>		#Some rishonim hold that the son isn't obligated in mitzvot at all and it is only father who is obligated to train his son in mitzvot.<ref>Rashi (Brachot 20a s.v. ketanim and 48a), Ran (Megillah 6b s.v. rabbi yehuda) citing the Ramban, Ritva (Megillah 19b s.v. hakol), Tosfot Bava Kama 87a s.v. vkein</ref> However, others hold that the child himself is rabbinically obligated in mitzvot.<ref>Tosfot (Megillah 19b s.v. vrabbi yehuda), Tosfot (Brachot 20a s.v. vketanim), Rashba (Brachot 20a s.v. nashim)</ref>
	#While the majority of the Poskim hold that Chinuch only applies to the father, some say it also applies to the mother.<ref>Mishna Brurah 343:2, Sefer Chinuch Yisrael (p. 61). See further in the Magen Avraham 343, Shulchan Aruch HaRav 343, Mishna Brurah 616:5, Aruch HaShulchan 343, and Pri Megadim E"A 225:5.		#While the majority of the Poskim hold that Chinuch only applies to the father, some say it also applies to the mother.<ref>Mishna Brurah 343:2, Sefer Chinuch Yisrael (p. 61). See further in the Magen Avraham 343, Shulchan Aruch HaRav 343, Mishna Brurah 616:5, Aruch HaShulchan 343, and Pri Megadim E"A 225:5.

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	#According to one opinion, you can have a child do melacha for you if it is only an issur derabanan<ref>Turei Zahav as cited in A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer</ref> According to most opinions you may not ask a child to do a melacha for you under any circumstances even melacha derabanan.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1, A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref>		#According to one opinion, you can have a child do melacha for you if it is only an issur derabanan<ref>Turei Zahav as cited in A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer</ref> According to most opinions you may not ask a child to do a melacha for you under any circumstances even melacha derabanan.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1, A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref>
	#Even though one cannot ask a child to do melacha, if a young child is playing with a toy that makes noise on shabbat, you don’t have to tell the kid to stop if he is too young to understand the laws of Shabbat.<ref>Yevamot 114a, A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref>		#Even though one cannot ask a child to do melacha, if a young child is playing with a toy that makes noise on shabbat, you don’t have to tell the kid to stop if he is too young to understand the laws of Shabbat.<ref>Yevamot 114a, A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref>
	#If a parent sees that his son or daughter is doing a melacha he needs to stop them from doing the melacha, even if they did not reach the age of chinuch,<Ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1 with Rama provided that they reached the age to understand what they are being told not to do.<Ref>Mishna Brurah 343:3, Kaf Hachaim 343:12 and 18</ref> If they are doing a melacha derabbanan for their own needs a parent does not need to stop them.<ref>Mishna Brurah 343:3 quoting Gra</ref>		#If a parent sees that his son or daughter is doing a melacha he needs to stop them from doing the melacha, even if they did not reach the age of chinuch,<Ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1 with Rama</ref> provided that they reached the age to understand what they are being told not to do.<Ref>Mishna Brurah 343:3, Kaf Hachaim 343:12 and 18</ref> If they are doing a melacha derabbanan for their own needs a parent does not need to stop them.<ref>Mishna Brurah 343:3 quoting Gra</ref>
	#But, if a kid is old enough to understand which actions are forbidden and which are allowed to do on Shabbat, then you must stop him from doing melacha based on Chinuch.<ref>Rama O.C. 343:1. A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref> Even if he doesn't understand the positive essence of Shabbat as long as he can understand that certain things are forbidden for Jews they should be trained not to do it.<ref>Mishna Brurah 343:3, Chinuch Habanim Kehilchato 44:8</ref> Some say that this begins from age 2 or 3, some say 3 or 4, and some say 4 or 5.<ref>Pitchei Teshuva 343:7 writes that the age for understanding that certain things are forbidden is age 3. Chinuch Habanim Kehilchato 44:9 quotes Chinuch Habanim Lmitzvot of Rav Neuwirth n. 38 as saying it is 2 or 3 years old, Az Nidbaru 6:57 says it is not below 3 unless he's smart. Hatipul Btinok Bshabbat Vyom tov ch. 17 says it is age 3 or 4. Lastly, he cites the Yavetz (Migdal Oz 3) who says that it is 4 or 5 years old.</ref>		#But, if a kid is old enough to understand which actions are forbidden and which are allowed to do on Shabbat, then you must stop him from doing melacha based on Chinuch.<ref>Rama O.C. 343:1. A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref> Even if he doesn't understand the positive essence of Shabbat as long as he can understand that certain things are forbidden for Jews they should be trained not to do it.<ref>Mishna Brurah 343:3, Chinuch Habanim Kehilchato 44:8</ref> Some say that this begins from age 2 or 3, some say 3 or 4, and some say 4 or 5.<ref>Pitchei Teshuva 343:7 writes that the age for understanding that certain things are forbidden is age 3. Chinuch Habanim Kehilchato 44:9 quotes Chinuch Habanim Lmitzvot of Rav Neuwirth n. 38 as saying it is 2 or 3 years old, Az Nidbaru 6:57 says it is not below 3 unless he's smart. Hatipul Btinok Bshabbat Vyom tov ch. 17 says it is age 3 or 4. Lastly, he cites the Yavetz (Migdal Oz 3) who says that it is 4 or 5 years old.</ref>

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2023-05-16T03:20:30Z

Melacha on Shabbat

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	#On Shabbat, a parent cannot tell a kid to do melacha.<ref>Shabbat 121a, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1</ref> This is a biblical prohibition.<ref>Shemot 20:10, Mechilta there, Ramban Sefer Hamitzvot shoresh 14, Rashba Shabbat 153a, Mishkenot Yakov OC 118, Shaar Hatziyun 334:54</ref>		#On Shabbat, a parent cannot tell a kid to do melacha.<ref>Shabbat 121a, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1</ref> This is a biblical prohibition.<ref>Shemot 20:10, Mechilta there, Ramban Sefer Hamitzvot shoresh 14, Rashba Shabbat 153a, Mishkenot Yakov OC 118, Shaar Hatziyun 334:54</ref>
	#According to one opinion, you can have a child do melacha for you if it is only an issur derabanan<ref>Turei Zahav as cited in A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer</ref> According to most opinions you may not ask a child to do a melacha for you under any circumstances even melacha derabanan.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1, A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref>		#According to one opinion, you can have a child do melacha for you if it is only an issur derabanan<ref>Turei Zahav as cited in A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer</ref> According to most opinions you may not ask a child to do a melacha for you under any circumstances even melacha derabanan.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1, A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref>
	#Even though one cannot ask a child to do melacha, if a young child is playing with a toy that makes noise on shabbat, you don’t have to tell the kid to stop if he is too young to understand the laws of ~~shabbat~~ <ref>Yevamot 114a, A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref>		#Even though one cannot ask a child to do melacha, if a young child is playing with a toy that makes noise on shabbat, you don’t have to tell the kid to stop if he is too young to understand the laws of Shabbat.<ref>Yevamot 114a, A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref>
			#If a parent sees that his son or daughter is doing a melacha he needs to stop them from doing the melacha, even if they did not reach the age of chinuch,<Ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1 with Rama provided that they reached the age to understand what they are being told not to do.<Ref>Mishna Brurah 343:3, Kaf Hachaim 343:12 and 18</ref> If they are doing a melacha derabbanan for their own needs a parent does not need to stop them.<ref>Mishna Brurah 343:3 quoting Gra</ref>
	#But, if a kid is old enough to understand which actions are forbidden and which are allowed to do on Shabbat, then you must stop him from doing melacha based on Chinuch.<ref>Rama O.C. 343:1. A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref> Even if he doesn't understand the positive essence of Shabbat as long as he can understand that certain things are forbidden for Jews they should be trained not to do it.<ref>Mishna Brurah 343:3, Chinuch Habanim Kehilchato 44:8</ref> Some say that this begins from age 2 or 3, some say 3 or 4, and some say 4 or 5.<ref>Pitchei Teshuva 343:7 writes that the age for understanding that certain things are forbidden is age 3. Chinuch Habanim Kehilchato 44:9 quotes Chinuch Habanim Lmitzvot of Rav Neuwirth n. 38 as saying it is 2 or 3 years old, Az Nidbaru 6:57 says it is not below 3 unless he's smart. Hatipul Btinok Bshabbat Vyom tov ch. 17 says it is age 3 or 4. Lastly, he cites the Yavetz (Migdal Oz 3) who says that it is 4 or 5 years old.</ref>		#But, if a kid is old enough to understand which actions are forbidden and which are allowed to do on Shabbat, then you must stop him from doing melacha based on Chinuch.<ref>Rama O.C. 343:1. A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref> Even if he doesn't understand the positive essence of Shabbat as long as he can understand that certain things are forbidden for Jews they should be trained not to do it.<ref>Mishna Brurah 343:3, Chinuch Habanim Kehilchato 44:8</ref> Some say that this begins from age 2 or 3, some say 3 or 4, and some say 4 or 5.<ref>Pitchei Teshuva 343:7 writes that the age for understanding that certain things are forbidden is age 3. Chinuch Habanim Kehilchato 44:9 quotes Chinuch Habanim Lmitzvot of Rav Neuwirth n. 38 as saying it is 2 or 3 years old, Az Nidbaru 6:57 says it is not below 3 unless he's smart. Hatipul Btinok Bshabbat Vyom tov ch. 17 says it is age 3 or 4. Lastly, he cites the Yavetz (Migdal Oz 3) who says that it is 4 or 5 years old.</ref>

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	Chinuch (Hebrew: חינוך, tran. ''education'') is the obligation upon every father to educate his children how to fulfill mitzvot.<ref>Rashi Chagiga 6a s.v. katan clarifies that the purpose of chinuch is to prepare the child to do mitzvot after he is bar mitzvah.</ref> This mitzvah applies even before his children reach the age of [[Bar Mitzvah]]/[[Bat Mitzvah]]. The age at which this obligation begins varies according to the Mitzvah. Below are the details of this Mitzvah		Chinuch (Hebrew: חינוך, tran. ''education'') is the obligation upon every father to educate his children how to fulfill mitzvot.<ref>Rashi Chagiga 6a s.v. katan clarifies that the purpose of chinuch is to prepare the child to do mitzvot after he is bar mitzvah.</ref> This mitzvah applies even before his children reach the age of [[Bar Mitzvah]]/[[Bat Mitzvah]]. The age at which this obligation begins varies according to the Mitzvah. Below are the details of this Mitzvah
	==D’Orayta or D’Rabanan?==		==D’Orayta or D’Rabanan?==
	The Mitzvah of Chinuch - to teach Torah to our children - is clearly a Mitzvah D’Orayta as explicitly stated: V’shinantam L’vanecha.<ref>Devarim 6 pasuk 7</ref> However, is the Mitzvah of chinuch - to instruct children to begin performing Mitzvot before they are of the age of Mitzvot - a mitzva D’Orayata or D’Rabanan?		The Mitzvah of Chinuch - to teach Torah to our children - is clearly a Mitzvah D’Orayta as explicitly stated: V’shinantam L’vanecha.<ref>Devarim 6 pasuk 7</ref> However, is the Mitzvah of chinuch - to instruct children to begin performing Mitzvot before they are of the age of Mitzvot - a mitzva D’Orayata or D’Rabanan?

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	#The gemara writes that the reason why children were also supposed to assemble at hakhel was to ‘bring reward to those who brought them’. Tosafot comments that this is the source for bringing children to shul.<ref>Chagigah 3a</ref>		#The gemara writes that the reason why children were also supposed to assemble at hakhel was to ‘bring reward to those who brought them’. Tosafot comments that this is the source for bringing children to shul.<ref>Chagigah 3a</ref>
	#The Shla hakadosh was frustrated by people who brought kids to shul who were not yet old enough to be in shul without making disruptions and bothering the shul. This will leave an impression on the child and he will feel distaste towards the shul as an adult because of it.<ref>Mishnah Berurah 98:3 who quotes the Shla Hakadosh:</ref>		#The Shla hakadosh was frustrated by people who brought kids to shul who were not yet old enough to be in shul without making disruptions and bothering the shul. This will leave an impression on the child and he will feel distaste towards the shul as an adult because of it.<ref>Mishnah Berurah 98:3 who quotes the Shla Hakadosh:</ref>
	#The Mishna Berura writes that one shouldn’t daven with a young child in front of ~~him~~ as the child will likely distract him.<ref>Mishna Berura 96:4</ref>		#The Mishna Berura writes that one shouldn’t daven with a young child in front of himm as the child will likely distract him.<ref>Mishna Berura 96:4</ref>
	#The Shulchan Aruch writes that children should listen to the megilla being read on Purim. The Mishna Berura writes that this is only applicable to children who have reached the age of chinuch. The Chafetz Chaim bemoans the unfortunate reality that many parents bring their younger children who disturb everyone else.<ref>The Shulchan Aruch (OC 689:1-3)</ref>		#The Shulchan Aruch writes that children should listen to the megilla being read on Purim. The Mishna Berura writes that this is only applicable to children who have reached the age of chinuch. The Chafetz Chaim bemoans the unfortunate reality that many parents bring their younger children who disturb everyone else.<ref>The Shulchan Aruch (OC 689:1-3)</ref>
	#One should not kiss a young child in shul.<ref>Rama O.C. 98:1 quotes Shut Binyamin Zev 163 that explains the reason is, so that one realizes that there is no love like the love one has for Hashem. See Sefer Chasidim 255		#One should not kiss a young child in shul.<ref>Rama O.C. 98:1 quotes Shut Binyamin Zev 163 that explains the reason is, so that one realizes that there is no love like the love one has for Hashem. See Sefer Chasidim 255
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	#Putting a diaper on a baby on Shabbat that has a color strip which changes colors when the baby goes to the bathroom is permitted.<ref>Rav Nissim Karelitz in Chut Shani Shabbat v. 4 p. 287 writes that it is permitted to put a diaper on a baby that is going to change colors when the baby goes to the bathroom and it isn't considered causing your baby to do a melacha of coloring on Shabbat. The reason is that when the diaper is put on there's no change and when the baby goes to the bathroom he is mitasek and there's no issue of causing your child to do a melacha as a mitasek.</ref>		#Putting a diaper on a baby on Shabbat that has a color strip which changes colors when the baby goes to the bathroom is permitted.<ref>Rav Nissim Karelitz in Chut Shani Shabbat v. 4 p. 287 writes that it is permitted to put a diaper on a baby that is going to change colors when the baby goes to the bathroom and it isn't considered causing your baby to do a melacha of coloring on Shabbat. The reason is that when the diaper is put on there's no change and when the baby goes to the bathroom he is mitasek and there's no issue of causing your child to do a melacha as a mitasek.</ref>
	#Feeding your child a cookie with letters on it on Shabbat is permitted.<ref>Mishna Brurah on 340:3 writes that it is permitted to give your child a cookie with letters on it even though for an adult it is forbidden to eat it since it will erase the letters. Chut Shani Shabbat v. 4 p. 293 explains that it is permitted since erasing the letters is at worst derabbanan and also some poskim permit it altogether. Also, there's no problem of causing your child to do something forbidden if it is a pesik reisha unless the child realizes that he's doing it for the benefit of the child.</ref>		#Feeding your child a cookie with letters on it on Shabbat is permitted.<ref>Mishna Brurah on 340:3 writes that it is permitted to give your child a cookie with letters on it even though for an adult it is forbidden to eat it since it will erase the letters. Chut Shani Shabbat v. 4 p. 293 explains that it is permitted since erasing the letters is at worst derabbanan and also some poskim permit it altogether. Also, there's no problem of causing your child to do something forbidden if it is a pesik reisha unless the child realizes that he's doing it for the benefit of the child.</ref>
	#In theory some permit allowing a child to do something that would otherwise be in violation of a prohibition in order to do a mitzvah. Some say that this is only permitted if the only way to perform the mitzvah would involve violating a prohibition. Others qualify this idea by limiting it to prohibitions that are implied from a positive mitzvah and not an outright mitzvah.<ref>Tosfot Pesachim 88a s.v. s.v. seh states that it is permitted to allow the child to violate a prohibition of eating from a korban pesach without effectively joining in because it is a mtizvah of chinuch to train them to eat korban pesach. Daf Al Hadaf Pesachim 88a summarizes some of the achronim who limit this Tosfot. Chikrei Lev YD 2:145 says that it is only permitted when for an adult it would be permitted and the only prohibition exists since he's a child. If he were to be an adult he would be able to join onto a korban pesach and since he's a child he can't. However, for the mitzvah of chinuch that is permitted. Similarly, the Chatom Sofer Nedarim 36a says that it is only permitted if not for the prohibition it would be impossible for a child to fulfill this mitzvah it is permitted for chinuch. Imrei Binah Shabbat ch. 8 says that it is only permitted for a prohibition that is derived from a positive mitzvah (''isur aseh''). Interestingly, they quote Magen Avraham 343 who quotes something similar from Rabbenu Yerucham and Chatom Sofer notes that the Ran Nedarim seems to dispute this. Lastly, they quote that Rabbi Akiva Eiger 15 allowed letting a child carry his own siddur to shul since it for his own chinuch, while Pri Yitzchak 1:11 disputed this. See also Tzitz Hakodesh 1:19 for an interesting application of this discussion.</ref~~><nowiki></ref></nowiki~~>		#In theory some permit allowing a child to do something that would otherwise be in violation of a prohibition in order to do a mitzvah. Some say that this is only permitted if the only way to perform the mitzvah would involve violating a prohibition. Others qualify this idea by limiting it to prohibitions that are implied from a positive mitzvah and not an outright mitzvah.<ref>Tosfot Pesachim 88a s.v. s.v. seh states that it is permitted to allow the child to violate a prohibition of eating from a korban pesach without effectively joining in because it is a mtizvah of chinuch to train them to eat korban pesach. Daf Al Hadaf Pesachim 88a summarizes some of the achronim who limit this Tosfot. Chikrei Lev YD 2:145 says that it is only permitted when for an adult it would be permitted and the only prohibition exists since he's a child. If he were to be an adult he would be able to join onto a korban pesach and since he's a child he can't. However, for the mitzvah of chinuch that is permitted. Similarly, the Chatom Sofer Nedarim 36a says that it is only permitted if not for the prohibition it would be impossible for a child to fulfill this mitzvah it is permitted for chinuch. Imrei Binah Shabbat ch. 8 says that it is only permitted for a prohibition that is derived from a positive mitzvah (''isur aseh''). Interestingly, they quote Magen Avraham 343 who quotes something similar from Rabbenu Yerucham and Chatom Sofer notes that the Ran Nedarim seems to dispute this. Lastly, they quote that Rabbi Akiva Eiger 15 allowed letting a child carry his own siddur to shul since it for his own chinuch, while Pri Yitzchak 1:11 disputed this. See also Tzitz Hakodesh 1:19 for an interesting application of this discussion.</ref>

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Bringing Children to Shul

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	===Berachot===		===Berachot===

	#Children should be taught to say berachot before food at the age of 5, or when the children are able to say it properly. However many people have different customs to start having children say berachot at an earlier age.<ref>"CHINUCH AGE." Ahavsalom (n.d.): n. pag. Dh.ahavasolam.com. Web. 1 Feb. 2016. <http://dh.ahavasolam.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/A-List-of-Chinuch-Ages.pdf>, שלחן ערוך א”ח רט”ו:ג as cited in Singer, Shmuel. "A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot." Google Books. Shmuel Singer, n.d. Web. 01 Feb. 2016. <https://books.google.com/books?id=55NdTR7HfYAC&pg=PA20&lpg=PA20&dq=age%2Bchildren%2Bberachot&source=bl&ots=zwGJnqECD_&sig=xSHlovDBimMjahI64ia2ltu_5ho&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHopOi39bKAhUBLyYKHRqADUEQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=age%20children%20berachot&f=false>.		#Children should be taught to say berachot before food at the age of 5, or when the children are able to say it properly. However many people have different customs to start having children say berachot at an earlier age.<ref>"CHINUCH AGE." Ahavsalom (n.d.): n. pag. Dh.ahavasolam.com. Web. 1 Feb. 2016. <http://dh.ahavasolam.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/A-List-of-Chinuch-Ages.pdf>, שלחן ערוך א”ח רט”ו:ג as cited in Singer, Shmuel. "A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot." Google Books. Shmuel Singer, n.d. Web. 01 Feb. 2016. <https://books.google.com/books?id=55NdTR7HfYAC&pg=PA20&lpg=PA20&dq=age%2Bchildren%2Bberachot&source=bl&ots=zwGJnqECD_&sig=xSHlovDBimMjahI64ia2ltu_5ho&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHopOi39bKAhUBLyYKHRqADUEQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=age%20children%20berachot&f=false>.

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	===Washing Hands===		===Washing Hands===
	====Washing for Bread====		====Washing for Bread====
	# Children that have not reached the age of bar or bat mitzvah are nevertheless required to wash their hands before eating bread. Even though washing hands is a mitzvah derabanan, it is a mitzvah of chinuch to teach kids mitzvot that are derabanan.<ref>Yalkut Yosef Dinei [[Netilat Yadayim]], Birkat Hamazon, [[Brachot]], [[Mincha]] and [[Arvit]] page 13-14 based on the Yerushalmi in Megilla 2:5 that [[chinuch]] of children applies to rabbinic laws as cited in [[Netilat Yadayim for a Meal]].
			#Children that have not reached the age of bar or bat mitzvah are nevertheless required to wash their hands before eating bread. Even though washing hands is a mitzvah derabanan, it is a mitzvah of chinuch to teach kids mitzvot that are derabanan.<ref>Yalkut Yosef Dinei [[Netilat Yadayim]], Birkat Hamazon, [[Brachot]], [[Mincha]] and [[Arvit]] page 13-14 based on the Yerushalmi in Megilla 2:5 that [[chinuch]] of children applies to rabbinic laws as cited in [[Netilat Yadayim for a Meal]].
	<br /> An important lesson about chinuch in general can be learned from a story about trying to teach one’s son to wash before eating. It talks about a little kid who did not wash before eating bread. This infuriated his dad so he went to get something to hit him with. When he wound up to hit his son, his wife immediately stopped him and reminded him that he does not wash before eating bread either, thus he should be the one that is hit. The lesson is that if you want to successfully teach your children mitzvot, you have to take ownership and do the mitzvah as well. "חינוך לדורות - חינוך במעשים." <http://raktora.50webs.com/hinuh1.htm>.</ref>		<br /> An important lesson about chinuch in general can be learned from a story about trying to teach one’s son to wash before eating. It talks about a little kid who did not wash before eating bread. This infuriated his dad so he went to get something to hit him with. When he wound up to hit his son, his wife immediately stopped him and reminded him that he does not wash before eating bread either, thus he should be the one that is hit. The lesson is that if you want to successfully teach your children mitzvot, you have to take ownership and do the mitzvah as well. "חינוך לדורות - חינוך במעשים." <http://raktora.50webs.com/hinuh1.htm>.</ref>
	#One opinion is that even when the child is being spoon fed because he does not have the motor skills to feed himself yet, he still is required to wash for bread when he eats more than a Kezayit.<ref>הרב אבישלום מונייצר שליט''א. "ילדים כהלכה." ילדים כהלכה. ''</ref>		#One opinion is that even when the child is being spoon fed because he does not have the motor skills to feed himself yet, he still is required to wash for bread when he eats more than a Kezayit.<ref>הרב אבישלום מונייצר שליט''א. "ילדים כהלכה." ילדים כהלכה. ''</ref>
	# Harav Adir Cohen says that when the child can say the bracha they should wash their hands before eating bread. Since in many kindergarten and nursery classrooms they have posters of the bracha on the wall, they have already memorized it when they are young. Therefore, they should be able to wash by then.<ref>הרב אדיר הכהן שליט"א. " חינוך לנטילת ידים לילדים." חינוך לנטילת ידים לילדים. </ref>		#Harav Adir Cohen says that when the child can say the bracha they should wash their hands before eating bread. Since in many kindergarten and nursery classrooms they have posters of the bracha on the wall, they have already memorized it when they are young. Therefore, they should be able to wash by then.<ref>הרב אדיר הכהן שליט"א. " חינוך לנטילת ידים לילדים." חינוך לנטילת ידים לילדים. </ref>

	====Washing in the Morning====		====Washing in the Morning====
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	#The gemara writes that the reason why children were also supposed to assemble at hakhel was to ‘bring reward to those who brought them’. Tosafot comments that this is the source for bringing children to shul.<ref>Chagigah 3a</ref>		#The gemara writes that the reason why children were also supposed to assemble at hakhel was to ‘bring reward to those who brought them’. Tosafot comments that this is the source for bringing children to shul.<ref>Chagigah 3a</ref>
	#The Shla hakadosh was frustrated by people who brought kids to shul who were not yet old enough to be in shul without making disruptions and bothering the shul. This will leave an impression on the child and he will feel distaste towards the shul as an adult because of it.<ref>Mishnah Berurah 98:3 who quotes the Shla Hakadosh:</ref>		#The Shla hakadosh was frustrated by people who brought kids to shul who were not yet old enough to be in shul without making disruptions and bothering the shul. This will leave an impression on the child and he will feel distaste towards the shul as an adult because of it.<ref>Mishnah Berurah 98:3 who quotes the Shla Hakadosh:</ref>
	#The Mishna Berura writes that one shouldn’t daven with a young child in front of ~~himm~~ as the child will likely distract him.<ref>Mishna Berura 96:4</ref>		#The Mishna Berura writes that one shouldn’t daven with a young child in front of him as the child will likely distract him.<ref>Mishna Berura 96:4</ref>
	#The Shulchan Aruch writes that children should listen to the megilla being read on Purim. The Mishna Berura writes that this is only applicable to children who have reached the age of chinuch. The Chafetz Chaim bemoans the unfortunate reality that many parents bring their younger children who disturb everyone else.<ref>The Shulchan Aruch (OC 689:1-3)</ref>		#The Shulchan Aruch writes that children should listen to the megilla being read on Purim. The Mishna Berura writes that this is only applicable to children who have reached the age of chinuch. The Chafetz Chaim bemoans the unfortunate reality that many parents bring their younger children who disturb everyone else.<ref>The Shulchan Aruch (OC 689:1-3)</ref>
	#One should not kiss a young child in shul.<ref>Rama O.C. 98:1 quotes Shut Binyamin Zev 163 that explains the reason is, so that one realizes that there is no love like the love one has for Hashem. See Sefer Chasidim 255		#One should not kiss a young child in shul.<ref>Rama O.C. 98:1 quotes Shut Binyamin Zev 163 that explains the reason is, so that one realizes that there is no love like the love one has for Hashem. See Sefer Chasidim 255
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	===Melacha on Shabbat===		===Melacha on Shabbat===

	#On Shabbat, a parent cannot tell a kid to do melacha.<ref>Shabbat 121a, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1</ref> This is a biblical prohibition.<ref>Shemot 20:10, Mechilta there, Ramban Sefer Hamitzvot shoresh 14, Rashba Shabbat 153a, Mishkenot Yakov OC 118, Shaar Hatziyun 334:54</ref>		#On Shabbat, a parent cannot tell a kid to do melacha.<ref>Shabbat 121a, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1</ref> This is a biblical prohibition.<ref>Shemot 20:10, Mechilta there, Ramban Sefer Hamitzvot shoresh 14, Rashba Shabbat 153a, Mishkenot Yakov OC 118, Shaar Hatziyun 334:54</ref>
	#According to one opinion, you can have a child do melacha for you if it is only an issur derabanan<ref>Turei Zahav as cited in A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer</ref> According to most opinions you may not ask a child to do a melacha for you under any circumstances even melacha derabanan.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1, A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref>		#According to one opinion, you can have a child do melacha for you if it is only an issur derabanan<ref>Turei Zahav as cited in A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer</ref> According to most opinions you may not ask a child to do a melacha for you under any circumstances even melacha derabanan.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1, A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref>
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	#Putting a diaper on a baby on Shabbat that has a color strip which changes colors when the baby goes to the bathroom is permitted.<ref>Rav Nissim Karelitz in Chut Shani Shabbat v. 4 p. 287 writes that it is permitted to put a diaper on a baby that is going to change colors when the baby goes to the bathroom and it isn't considered causing your baby to do a melacha of coloring on Shabbat. The reason is that when the diaper is put on there's no change and when the baby goes to the bathroom he is mitasek and there's no issue of causing your child to do a melacha as a mitasek.</ref>		#Putting a diaper on a baby on Shabbat that has a color strip which changes colors when the baby goes to the bathroom is permitted.<ref>Rav Nissim Karelitz in Chut Shani Shabbat v. 4 p. 287 writes that it is permitted to put a diaper on a baby that is going to change colors when the baby goes to the bathroom and it isn't considered causing your baby to do a melacha of coloring on Shabbat. The reason is that when the diaper is put on there's no change and when the baby goes to the bathroom he is mitasek and there's no issue of causing your child to do a melacha as a mitasek.</ref>
	#Feeding your child a cookie with letters on it on Shabbat is permitted.<ref>Mishna Brurah on 340:3 writes that it is permitted to give your child a cookie with letters on it even though for an adult it is forbidden to eat it since it will erase the letters. Chut Shani Shabbat v. 4 p. 293 explains that it is permitted since erasing the letters is at worst derabbanan and also some poskim permit it altogether. Also, there's no problem of causing your child to do something forbidden if it is a pesik reisha unless the child realizes that he's doing it for the benefit of the child.</ref>		#Feeding your child a cookie with letters on it on Shabbat is permitted.<ref>Mishna Brurah on 340:3 writes that it is permitted to give your child a cookie with letters on it even though for an adult it is forbidden to eat it since it will erase the letters. Chut Shani Shabbat v. 4 p. 293 explains that it is permitted since erasing the letters is at worst derabbanan and also some poskim permit it altogether. Also, there's no problem of causing your child to do something forbidden if it is a pesik reisha unless the child realizes that he's doing it for the benefit of the child.</ref>
	# In theory some permit allowing a child to do something that would otherwise be in violation of a prohibition in order to do a mitzvah. Some say that this is only permitted if the only way to perform the mitzvah would involve violating a prohibition. Others qualify this idea by limiting it to prohibitions that are implied from a positive mitzvah and not an outright mitzvah.<ref>Tosfot Pesachim 88a s.v. s.v. seh states that it is permitted to allow the child to violate a prohibition of eating from a korban pesach without effectively joining in because it is a mtizvah of chinuch to train them to eat korban pesach. Daf Al Hadaf Pesachim 88a summarizes some of the achronim who limit this Tosfot. Chikrei Lev YD 2:145 says that it is only permitted when for an adult it would be permitted and the only prohibition exists since he's a child. If he were to be an adult he would be able to join onto a korban pesach and since he's a child he can't. However, for the mitzvah of chinuch that is permitted. Similarly, the Chatom Sofer Nedarim 36a says that it is only permitted if not for the prohibition it would be impossible for a child to fulfill this mitzvah it is permitted for chinuch. Imrei Binah Shabbat ch. 8 says that it is only permitted for a prohibition that is derived from a positive mitzvah (''isur aseh''). Interestingly, they quote Magen Avraham 343 who quotes something similar from Rabbenu Yerucham and Chatom Sofer notes that the Ran Nedarim seems to dispute this. Lastly, they quote that Rabbi Akiva Eiger 15 allowed letting a child carry his own siddur to shul since it for his own chinuch, while Pri Yitzchak 1:11 disputed this. See also Tzitz Hakodesh 1:19 for an interesting application of this discussion.</ref></ref>		#In theory some permit allowing a child to do something that would otherwise be in violation of a prohibition in order to do a mitzvah. Some say that this is only permitted if the only way to perform the mitzvah would involve violating a prohibition. Others qualify this idea by limiting it to prohibitions that are implied from a positive mitzvah and not an outright mitzvah.<ref>Tosfot Pesachim 88a s.v. s.v. seh states that it is permitted to allow the child to violate a prohibition of eating from a korban pesach without effectively joining in because it is a mtizvah of chinuch to train them to eat korban pesach. Daf Al Hadaf Pesachim 88a summarizes some of the achronim who limit this Tosfot. Chikrei Lev YD 2:145 says that it is only permitted when for an adult it would be permitted and the only prohibition exists since he's a child. If he were to be an adult he would be able to join onto a korban pesach and since he's a child he can't. However, for the mitzvah of chinuch that is permitted. Similarly, the Chatom Sofer Nedarim 36a says that it is only permitted if not for the prohibition it would be impossible for a child to fulfill this mitzvah it is permitted for chinuch. Imrei Binah Shabbat ch. 8 says that it is only permitted for a prohibition that is derived from a positive mitzvah (''isur aseh''). Interestingly, they quote Magen Avraham 343 who quotes something similar from Rabbenu Yerucham and Chatom Sofer notes that the Ran Nedarim seems to dispute this. Lastly, they quote that Rabbi Akiva Eiger 15 allowed letting a child carry his own siddur to shul since it for his own chinuch, while Pri Yitzchak 1:11 disputed this. See also Tzitz Hakodesh 1:19 for an interesting application of this discussion.</ref><nowiki></ref></nowiki>

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	Chinuch (Hebrew: חינוך, tran. ''education'') is the obligation upon every father to educate his children how to fulfill mitzvot. This mitzvah applies even before his children reach the age of [[Bar Mitzvah]]/[[Bat Mitzvah]]. The age at which this obligation begins varies according to the Mitzvah. Below are the details of this Mitzvah		Chinuch (Hebrew: חינוך, tran. ''education'') is the obligation upon every father to educate his children how to fulfill mitzvot.<ref>Rashi Chagiga 6a s.v. katan clarifies that the purpose of chinuch is to prepare the child to do mitzvot after he is bar mitzvah.</ref> This mitzvah applies even before his children reach the age of [[Bar Mitzvah]]/[[Bat Mitzvah]]. The age at which this obligation begins varies according to the Mitzvah. Below are the details of this Mitzvah
	==D’Orayta or D’Rabanan?==		==D’Orayta or D’Rabanan?==
	The Mitzvah of Chinuch - to teach Torah to our children - is clearly a Mitzvah D’Orayta as explicitly stated: V’shinantam L’vanecha.<ref>Devarim 6 pasuk 7</ref> However, is the Mitzvah of chinuch - to instruct children to begin performing Mitzvot before they are of the age of Mitzvot - a mitzva D’Orayata or D’Rabanan?		The Mitzvah of Chinuch - to teach Torah to our children - is clearly a Mitzvah D’Orayta as explicitly stated: V’shinantam L’vanecha.<ref>Devarim 6 pasuk 7</ref> However, is the Mitzvah of chinuch - to instruct children to begin performing Mitzvot before they are of the age of Mitzvot - a mitzva D’Orayata or D’Rabanan?

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	#Putting a diaper on a baby on Shabbat that has a color strip which changes colors when the baby goes to the bathroom is permitted.<ref>Rav Nissim Karelitz in Chut Shani Shabbat v. 4 p. 287 writes that it is permitted to put a diaper on a baby that is going to change colors when the baby goes to the bathroom and it isn't considered causing your baby to do a melacha of coloring on Shabbat. The reason is that when the diaper is put on there's no change and when the baby goes to the bathroom he is mitasek and there's no issue of causing your child to do a melacha as a mitasek.</ref>		#Putting a diaper on a baby on Shabbat that has a color strip which changes colors when the baby goes to the bathroom is permitted.<ref>Rav Nissim Karelitz in Chut Shani Shabbat v. 4 p. 287 writes that it is permitted to put a diaper on a baby that is going to change colors when the baby goes to the bathroom and it isn't considered causing your baby to do a melacha of coloring on Shabbat. The reason is that when the diaper is put on there's no change and when the baby goes to the bathroom he is mitasek and there's no issue of causing your child to do a melacha as a mitasek.</ref>
	#Feeding your child a cookie with letters on it on Shabbat is permitted.<ref>Mishna Brurah on 340:3 writes that it is permitted to give your child a cookie with letters on it even though for an adult it is forbidden to eat it since it will erase the letters. Chut Shani Shabbat v. 4 p. 293 explains that it is permitted since erasing the letters is at worst derabbanan and also some poskim permit it altogether. Also, there's no problem of causing your child to do something forbidden if it is a pesik reisha unless the child realizes that he's doing it for the benefit of the child.</ref>		#Feeding your child a cookie with letters on it on Shabbat is permitted.<ref>Mishna Brurah on 340:3 writes that it is permitted to give your child a cookie with letters on it even though for an adult it is forbidden to eat it since it will erase the letters. Chut Shani Shabbat v. 4 p. 293 explains that it is permitted since erasing the letters is at worst derabbanan and also some poskim permit it altogether. Also, there's no problem of causing your child to do something forbidden if it is a pesik reisha unless the child realizes that he's doing it for the benefit of the child.</ref>
			# In theory some permit allowing a child to do something that would otherwise be in violation of a prohibition in order to do a mitzvah. Some say that this is only permitted if the only way to perform the mitzvah would involve violating a prohibition. Others qualify this idea by limiting it to prohibitions that are implied from a positive mitzvah and not an outright mitzvah.<ref>Tosfot Pesachim 88a s.v. s.v. seh states that it is permitted to allow the child to violate a prohibition of eating from a korban pesach without effectively joining in because it is a mtizvah of chinuch to train them to eat korban pesach. Daf Al Hadaf Pesachim 88a summarizes some of the achronim who limit this Tosfot. Chikrei Lev YD 2:145 says that it is only permitted when for an adult it would be permitted and the only prohibition exists since he's a child. If he were to be an adult he would be able to join onto a korban pesach and since he's a child he can't. However, for the mitzvah of chinuch that is permitted. Similarly, the Chatom Sofer Nedarim 36a says that it is only permitted if not for the prohibition it would be impossible for a child to fulfill this mitzvah it is permitted for chinuch. Imrei Binah Shabbat ch. 8 says that it is only permitted for a prohibition that is derived from a positive mitzvah (''isur aseh''). Interestingly, they quote Magen Avraham 343 who quotes something similar from Rabbenu Yerucham and Chatom Sofer notes that the Ran Nedarim seems to dispute this. Lastly, they quote that Rabbi Akiva Eiger 15 allowed letting a child carry his own siddur to shul since it for his own chinuch, while Pri Yitzchak 1:11 disputed this. See also Tzitz Hakodesh 1:19 for an interesting application of this discussion.</ref></ref>

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	===Melacha on Shabbat===		===Melacha on Shabbat===

	#On Shabbat, a parent cannot tell a kid to do melacha.<ref>Shabbat 121a, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1</ref> This is a biblical prohibition.<ref>Shemot 20:10, Mechilta there, Ramban Sefer Hamitzvot shoresh 14, Rashba Shabbat 153a, Mishkenot Yakov OC 118, Shaar Hatziyun 334:54</ref>		#On Shabbat, a parent cannot tell a kid to do melacha.<ref>Shabbat 121a, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1</ref> This is a biblical prohibition.<ref>Shemot 20:10, Mechilta there, Ramban Sefer Hamitzvot shoresh 14, Rashba Shabbat 153a, Mishkenot Yakov OC 118, Shaar Hatziyun 334:54</ref>
	#According to one opinion, you can have a child do melacha for you if it is only an issur derabanan<ref>Turei Zahav as cited in A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer</ref> According to most opinions you may not ask a child to do a melacha for you under any circumstances even melacha derabanan.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1, A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref>		#According to one opinion, you can have a child do melacha for you if it is only an issur derabanan<ref>Turei Zahav as cited in A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer</ref> According to most opinions you may not ask a child to do a melacha for you under any circumstances even melacha derabanan.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 343:1, A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref>
	#Even though one cannot ask a child to do melacha, if a young child is playing with a toy that makes noise on shabbat, you don’t have to tell the kid to stop if he is too young to understand the laws of shabbat <ref>Yevamot 114a, A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref>		#Even though one cannot ask a child to do melacha, if a young child is playing with a toy that makes noise on shabbat, you don’t have to tell the kid to stop if he is too young to understand the laws of shabbat <ref>Yevamot 114a, A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref>
	#But, if a kid is old enough to understand which actions are forbidden and which are allowed to do on Shabbat, then you must stop him from doing melacha based on Chinuch.<ref>Rama O.C. 343:1. A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref>		#But, if a kid is old enough to understand which actions are forbidden and which are allowed to do on Shabbat, then you must stop him from doing melacha based on Chinuch.<ref>Rama O.C. 343:1. A Parent's Guide to Teaching Children Mitzvot: A Halachic Guide By: Samuel Singer </ref> Even if he doesn't understand the positive essence of Shabbat as long as he can understand that certain things are forbidden for Jews they should be trained not to do it.<ref>Mishna Brurah 343:3, Chinuch Habanim Kehilchato 44:8</ref> Some say that this begins from age 2 or 3, some say 3 or 4, and some say 4 or 5.<ref>Pitchei Teshuva 343:7 writes that the age for understanding that certain things are forbidden is age 3. Chinuch Habanim Kehilchato 44:9 quotes Chinuch Habanim Lmitzvot of Rav Neuwirth n. 38 as saying it is 2 or 3 years old, Az Nidbaru 6:57 says it is not below 3 unless he's smart. Hatipul Btinok Bshabbat Vyom tov ch. 17 says it is age 3 or 4. Lastly, he cites the Yavetz (Migdal Oz 3) who says that it is 4 or 5 years old.</ref>

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