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	#If one slept and woke up after [[Chatzot]] it’s preferable not to eat before [[Davening]] unless there’s a need, however drinking is permissible until [[Olot HaShachar]].<ref>Mishna Brurah 89:28 </ref> Regarding whether one may eat before a fast prior to [[Olot HaShachar]] see [[Fast_Days#When_does_the_fast_start\|Fast Days]].		#If one slept and woke up after [[Chatzot]] it’s preferable not to eat before [[Davening]] unless there’s a need, however drinking is permissible until [[Olot HaShachar]].<ref>Mishna Brurah 89:28 </ref> Regarding whether one may eat before a fast prior to [[Olot HaShachar]] see [[Fast_Days#When_does_the_fast_start\|Fast Days]].
	#It’s forbidden to eat a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread or [[Pas HaBah Bekisnin]] or to drink an intoxicating drink after a half hour prior to [[Olot HaShachar]].<ref>Mishna Brurah 89:27, Piskei Teshuvot 89:21, Ishei Yisrael 13:26 </ref> If one began before this, one may continue until [[Olot HaShachar]].<ref>~~S”A~~ 89:5, Mishna Brurah 89:27 </ref>		#It’s forbidden to eat a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread or [[Pas HaBah Bekisnin]] or to drink an intoxicating drink after a half hour prior to [[Olot HaShachar]].<ref>Mishna Brurah 89:27, Piskei Teshuvot 89:21, Ishei Yisrael 13:26 </ref> If one began before this, one may continue until [[Olot HaShachar]].<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 89:5, Mishna Brurah 89:27 </ref>
	#After [[Olot HaShachar]], it’s forbidden to eat or drink anything besides water until one prays.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 89:3. Rabbi Hershel Schachter (OU Kosher Webcast [http://www.ou.org/news/ou_webcast_with_poskim_let_my_people_know/ Dec. 2011], min 28-30) says that it's not permitted to eat before [[davening]] even if one will not have a chance to eat later and advises taking food with you to work or the Beit Midrash to eat later after [[davening]].</ref>		#After [[Olot HaShachar]], it’s forbidden to eat or drink anything besides water until one prays.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 89:3. Rabbi Hershel Schachter (OU Kosher Webcast [http://www.ou.org/news/ou_webcast_with_poskim_let_my_people_know/ Dec. 2011], min 28-30) says that it's not permitted to eat before [[davening]] even if one will not have a chance to eat later and advises taking food with you to work or the Beit Midrash to eat later after [[davening]].</ref>
	#The minhag is to allowing ~~having~~ coffee or tea even with sugar and milk added.<ref>Ishei Yisrael 13:25, Piskei Teshuvot 89:17, Shearim Metsuyim BeHalacha 8:1, Maharsham ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41144&pgnum=160 Daat Torah 89:3]), and Kaf Hachaim 89:31 say that the minhag is to have coffee or tea even with sugar or milk before davening because it is in order to enable one to daven in a better manner, it is common and not an act of arrogance. Note that the Mishneh Brurah 89:22 says that the minhag is to drink coffee and tea with sugar and milk, although he writes that there is no room to be lenient on this issue. The Be'er Heteiv 89:14 quotes Acharonim who don't allow sugar in coffee. The Aruch Hashulchan 89:23 allows sugar but not milk.</ref>		#The minhag is to allowing drinking coffee or tea even with sugar and milk added.<ref>Ishei Yisrael 13:25, Piskei Teshuvot 89:17, Shearim Metsuyim BeHalacha 8:1, Maharsham ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41144&pgnum=160 Daat Torah 89:3]), and Kaf Hachaim 89:31 say that the minhag is to have coffee or tea even with sugar or milk before davening because it is in order to enable one to daven in a better manner, it is common and not an act of arrogance. Note that the Mishneh Brurah 89:22 says that the minhag is to drink coffee and tea with sugar and milk, although he writes that there is no room to be lenient on this issue. The Be'er Heteiv 89:14 quotes Acharonim who don't allow sugar in coffee. The Aruch Hashulchan 89:23 allows sugar but not milk.</ref>

	==Mincha==		==Mincha==

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			Out of respect for Hashem, davening should be the first activity of the day and as such it is forbidden to eat before Shacharit. There is also a prohibition to eat a meal before praying mincha or maariv so that one doesn't forget to daven.

	==Shacharit==		==Shacharit==

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	#Ashkenazi Women may not eat before davening Shacharit,<ref>Ishei Yisrael 13:30</ref>, while Sephardi women may.<ref>Rav Avraham Yosef in response to a [http://shut.moreshet.co.il/shut2.asp?id=148520 question posed on Moreshet.co.il]</ref>		#Ashkenazi Women may not eat before davening Shacharit,<ref>Ishei Yisrael 13:30</ref>, while Sephardi women may.<ref>Rav Avraham Yosef in response to a [http://shut.moreshet.co.il/shut2.asp?id=148520 question posed on Moreshet.co.il]</ref>
	##Some poskim say that if a woman wants to eat before davening, she should say a short prayer that includes praise of Hashem, a request to Hashem, and thanks to Hashem and then eat. It is preferable for her to also say the first paragraph of shema before eating. This solution works even if she is later going to daven a regular davening afterwards.<ref>Ishei Yisrael 13:30. See Igrot Moshe 4:101:2 who suggests that perhaps woman only need to say some request in order to fulfill tefillah on a ~~Biblical~~ level and then they can eat. He leaves it as an unresolved issue. See [http://www.yeshiva.org.il/midrash/3620 דברים שמותר לעשות לפני התפילה] and [http://ph.yhb.org.il/02-12-06/ Pninei Halacha Tefillah 12:6] by Rav Eliezer Melamed </ref>		##Some poskim say that if a woman wants to eat before davening, she should say a short prayer that includes praise of Hashem, a request to Hashem, and thanks to Hashem and then eat. It is preferable for her to also say the first paragraph of shema before eating. This solution works even if she is later going to daven a regular davening afterwards.<ref>Ishei Yisrael 13:30. See Igrot Moshe 4:101:2 who suggests that perhaps woman only need to say some request in order to fulfill tefillah on a biblical level and then they can eat. He leaves it as an unresolved issue. See [http://www.yeshiva.org.il/midrash/3620 דברים שמותר לעשות לפני התפילה] and [http://ph.yhb.org.il/02-12-06/ Pninei Halacha Tefillah 12:6] by Rav Eliezer Melamed </ref>

	===Eating before Kiddush===		===Eating before Kiddush===

	#On Shabbat, some poskim write that a married woman who didn't daven yet and is permitted to eat, such as in the case above, if her husband has not davened yet, some poskim hold that she may eat without reciting Kiddush. Once she davened certainly she needs to recite Kiddush before eating. However, an unmarried woman who didn't daven yet and is permitted to eat, such as in the case above, must recite Kiddush before eating.<ref>Igrot Moshe 4:101:2 writes that since a married woman has an obligation to eat together with her husband, if her husband hasn't yet davened and isn't yet obligated in Kiddush, she isn't obligated either. An unmarried woman, however, may not eat without Kiddush once she has davened. See Minchat Yitzchak 4:28:3 who quotes the Tosefet Shabbat who says that once a woman has fulfilled tefillah on a ~~Biblical~~ level they are obligated in Kiddush and may not eat without Kiddush. See Divrei Yetsiv 132 who allows women to have a snack before tefillah without kiddush, see there for his reasoning. </ref>		#On Shabbat, some poskim write that a married woman who didn't daven yet and is permitted to eat, such as in the case above, if her husband has not davened yet, some poskim hold that she may eat without reciting Kiddush. Once she davened certainly she needs to recite Kiddush before eating. However, an unmarried woman who didn't daven yet and is permitted to eat, such as in the case above, must recite Kiddush before eating.<ref>Igrot Moshe 4:101:2 writes that since a married woman has an obligation to eat together with her husband, if her husband hasn't yet davened and isn't yet obligated in Kiddush, she isn't obligated either. An unmarried woman, however, may not eat without Kiddush once she has davened. See Minchat Yitzchak 4:28:3 who quotes the Tosefet Shabbat who says that once a woman has fulfilled tefillah on a biblical level they are obligated in Kiddush and may not eat without Kiddush. See Divrei Yetsiv 132 who allows women to have a snack before tefillah without kiddush, see there for his reasoning. </ref>
	#Sephardi poskim hold that women may not eat before Kiddush and if she usually davens she may drink coffee or tea before davening; a mother who is nursing may rely on those who say it is permitted for women to eat without Kiddush during the day.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 289:6. See Daat Torah 289:2 who cites the Maharam Chalavah (Pesachim 106a) who says that women aren't obligated in the daytime Kiddush. Additionally, the Raavad (Shabbat 29:10) holds that it is permitted to eat before the daytime Kiddush.</ref>		#Sephardi poskim hold that women may not eat before Kiddush and if she usually davens she may drink coffee or tea before davening; a mother who is nursing may rely on those who say it is permitted for women to eat without Kiddush during the day.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 289:6. See Daat Torah 289:2 who cites the Maharam Chalavah (Pesachim 106a) who says that women aren't obligated in the daytime Kiddush. Additionally, the Raavad (Shabbat 29:10) holds that it is permitted to eat before the daytime Kiddush.</ref>

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	#According to Ashkenazim, there is what to rely on to be lenient to eat a meal before [[Mincha]] except for having a big meal (like the meal of a wedding or [[Brit Milah]]) from the beginning of the tenth hour of the day (a half hour before [[Mincha]] Ketana) before praying [[Mincha]] for which there is no leniency to rely on. Nonetheless, it’s preferable to be strict not to have a big meal from the beginning of the seventh hour (midday) before praying [[Mincha]].<ref>See next footnote </ref>		#According to Ashkenazim, there is what to rely on to be lenient to eat a meal before [[Mincha]] except for having a big meal (like the meal of a wedding or [[Brit Milah]]) from the beginning of the tenth hour of the day (a half hour before [[Mincha]] Ketana) before praying [[Mincha]] for which there is no leniency to rely on. Nonetheless, it’s preferable to be strict not to have a big meal from the beginning of the seventh hour (midday) before praying [[Mincha]].<ref>See next footnote </ref>
	#According to Sephardim, it is preferable not to have a big (like the meal of a wedding or [[Brit Milah]]) or small meal (greater than a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread) from the beginning of the seventh hour (midday), however, the minhag is to be lenient and hold like the same halacha as Ashkenazim (see above) and there is what to rely on.<ref>*The Mishna ([[Shabbat]] 9b) writes that one may not start a meal close to the time of [[Mincha]] and if one started one may continue. The Gemara 9b initially posits that this prohibition must only apply from [[Mincha]] Katana because why would it start from [[Mincha]] Gedolah isn’t there a lot of time from [[Mincha]] Gedolah (and one will certainly have time to pray). Then the Gemara says that the fact that the Mishna states that if one started one doesn’t have to stop the meal contradicts Rabbi Yehoshua Ben Levi who says one may not taste food before [[Mincha]]. Rather, says the Gemara, the Mishna was talking about having a big meal (before [[Mincha]] Gedolah) and this doesn’t contradict Rabbi Yehoshua Ben Levi who forbad eating after [[Mincha]] Ketana. Then the Gemara quotes a second opinion, Rav Acha Bar Yacov who says that the Mishna means that one can’t have even a small meal before [[Mincha]] Gedolah.		#According to Sephardim, it is preferable not to have a big (like the meal of a wedding or [[Brit Milah]]) or small meal (greater than a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread) from the beginning of the seventh hour (midday), however, the minhag is to be lenient and hold like the same halacha as Ashkenazim (see above) and there is what to rely on.<ref>
			*The Mishna ([[Shabbat]] 9b) writes that one may not start a meal close to the time of [[Mincha]] and if one started one may continue. The Gemara 9b initially posits that this prohibition must only apply from [[Mincha]] Katana because why would it start from [[Mincha]] Gedolah isn’t there a lot of time from [[Mincha]] Gedolah (and one will certainly have time to pray). Then the Gemara says that the fact that the Mishna states that if one started one doesn’t have to stop the meal contradicts Rabbi Yehoshua Ben Levi who says one may not taste food before [[Mincha]]. Rather, says the Gemara, the Mishna was talking about having a big meal (before [[Mincha]] Gedolah) and this doesn’t contradict Rabbi Yehoshua Ben Levi who forbad eating after [[Mincha]] Ketana. Then the Gemara quotes a second opinion, Rav Acha Bar Yacov who says that the Mishna means that one can’t have even a small meal before [[Mincha]] Gedolah.
	*The Rishonim (early authorities) discuss what is the halacha based on the Gemara [[Brachot]] 28b which states that the halacha doesn’t follow Rabbi Yehoshua Ben Levi.		*The Rishonim (early authorities) discuss what is the halacha based on the Gemara [[Brachot]] 28b which states that the halacha doesn’t follow Rabbi Yehoshua Ben Levi.
	*The Baal HaMoer ([[Shabbat]] 3b s.v. Matni Lo Yeshev) says that we hold like the first thought of the Gemara that the Mishna forbids having a big meal before [[Mincha]] Ketana, however, it’s permissible to have a big or small meal before [[Mincha]] Gedolah. Additionally, if one started having a meal before [[Mincha]] Ketana one may continue the meal. This is quoted (as an individual opinion) by the Ran [[Shabbat]] 4a s.v. Aval and Bet Yosef 232:2. The Rashba ([[Shabbat]] 9b s.v. VeYeInyan Pesak Halacha) initially agrees with the Baal HaMoar but then concludes that it should also be prohibited to have a big meal before [[Mincha]] Gedolah.		*The Baal HaMoer ([[Shabbat]] 3b s.v. Matni Lo Yeshev) says that we hold like the first thought of the Gemara that the Mishna forbids having a big meal before [[Mincha]] Ketana, however, it’s permissible to have a big or small meal before [[Mincha]] Gedolah. Additionally, if one started having a meal before [[Mincha]] Ketana one may continue the meal. This is quoted (as an individual opinion) by the Ran [[Shabbat]] 4a s.v. Aval and Bet Yosef 232:2. The Rashba ([[Shabbat]] 9b s.v. VeYeInyan Pesak Halacha) initially agrees with the Baal HaMoar but then concludes that it should also be prohibited to have a big meal before [[Mincha]] Gedolah.
	*The Ri (quoted by Tur 232:2) says that we hold like the first answer of the Gemara that there’s only a prohibition for having a big meal before Gedolah and there’s no prohibition to have a small meal neither before [[Mincha]] Gedolah or [[Mincha]] Ketana. This is also the opinion of Rabbenu Tam according to the Rosh ([[Brachot]] 4:11).		*The Ri (quoted by Tur 232:2) says that we hold like the first answer of the Gemara that there’s only a prohibition for having a big meal before Gedolah and there’s no prohibition to have a small meal neither before [[Mincha]] Gedolah or [[Mincha]] Ketana. This is also the opinion of Rabbenu Tam according to the Rosh ([[Brachot]] 4:11).
	*The Rabbenu Tam (quoted by the Tur 232:2) says that we hold like the first answer of the Gemara and the primary prohibition is having a big meal before [[Mincha]] Gedolah. However, there’s a second prohibition of having a small meal before [[Mincha]] Ketana. Additionally, if one began before [[Mincha]] Gedolah one may continue however if one before before [[Mincha]] Ketana one should stop. This is also the opinion of Tosfot ([[Shabbat]] 9b s.v. BeTisporet).		*The Rabbenu Tam (quoted by the Tur 232:2) says that we hold like the first answer of the Gemara and the primary prohibition is having a big meal before [[Mincha]] Gedolah. However, there’s a second prohibition of having a small meal before [[Mincha]] Ketana. Additionally, if one began before [[Mincha]] Gedolah one may continue however if one before before [[Mincha]] Ketana one should stop. This is also the opinion of Tosfot ([[Shabbat]] 9b s.v. BeTisporet).
	*The Rif ([[Shabbat]] 4a) rules like Rav Acha Bar Yacov that one may not have a small or big meal from before [[Mincha]] Gedolah. Rambam ([[Tefillah]] 6:5) holds like the Rif. The Rosh ([[Brachot]] 4:11, [[Shabbat]] 1:18) quotes the opinions of Tosfot and Rif and the Tur in C”M 5 writes that the Rosh agrees to the Rif, while the Bet Yosef C”M 5 questions this. The Rosh ([[Shabbat]] 1:18) writes that the Rabbenu Yonah agrees with the Rif. The Rashba ([[Shabbat]] 9b s.v. VeYeInyan Pesak Halacha) writes that his Rebbe (the Ramban) agreed with the Rif. ~~S”A~~ 232:2 rules like the Rif.		*The Rif ([[Shabbat]] 4a) rules like Rav Acha Bar Yacov that one may not have a small or big meal from before [[Mincha]] Gedolah. Rambam ([[Tefillah]] 6:5) holds like the Rif. The Rosh ([[Brachot]] 4:11, [[Shabbat]] 1:18) quotes the opinions of Tosfot and Rif and the Tur in C”M 5 writes that the Rosh agrees to the Rif, while the Bet Yosef C”M 5 questions this. The Rosh ([[Shabbat]] 1:18) writes that the Rabbenu Yonah agrees with the Rif. The Rashba ([[Shabbat]] 9b s.v. VeYeInyan Pesak Halacha) writes that his Rebbe (the Ramban) agreed with the Rif. Shulchan Aruch O.C. 232:2 rules like the Rif.
	*The Rama 232:2 writes that one may be more lenient than S”A to have a small meal before [[Mincha]] Gedolah and before [[Mincha]] Ketana but one should still be strict like the Ri not to have a big meal even before [[Mincha]] Gedolah and the Minhag is even more lenient to permit any meal except for a big meal before [[Mincha]] Katana (which is a combination of the leniency of the Baal HaMoar and the leniency of the Ri). [The Yalkut Yosef (vol 3 pg 635) writes that this is also the opinion of the Mordechai. However, the Mordechai in [[Shabbat]] (Siman 225) seems to hold like Rabbenu Tam.]		*The Rama 232:2 writes that one may be more lenient than S”A to have a small meal before [[Mincha]] Gedolah and before [[Mincha]] Ketana but one should still be strict like the Ri not to have a big meal even before [[Mincha]] Gedolah and the Minhag is even more lenient to permit any meal except for a big meal before [[Mincha]] Katana (which is a combination of the leniency of the Baal HaMoar and the leniency of the Ri). [The Yalkut Yosef (vol 3 pg 635) writes that this is also the opinion of the Mordechai. However, the Mordechai in [[Shabbat]] (Siman 225) seems to hold like Rabbenu Tam.]
	*The achronim discuss whether the leniency to permit having a small meal even before [[Mincha]] Ketana allows one to have a small meal at any time or only until the actual time of [[Mincha]] Ketana (nine and a half hour and not the beginning of the ninth hour). The Magen Avraham 232:15 is strict, however, the Mahariv is lenient. Mishna Brurah 232:26 is lenient.		*The achronim discuss whether the leniency to permit having a small meal even before [[Mincha]] Ketana allows one to have a small meal at any time or only until the actual time of [[Mincha]] Ketana (nine and a half hour and not the beginning of the ninth hour). The Magen Avraham 232:15 is strict, however, the Mahariv is lenient. Mishna Brurah 232:26 is lenient.

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	#Ashkenazi Women may not eat before davening Shacharit,<ref>Ishei Yisrael 13:30</ref>, while ~~Sepharadi~~ women may.<ref>Rav Avraham Yosef in response to a [http://shut.moreshet.co.il/shut2.asp?id=148520 question posed on Moreshet.co.il]</ref>		#Ashkenazi Women may not eat before davening Shacharit,<ref>Ishei Yisrael 13:30</ref>, while Sephardi women may.<ref>Rav Avraham Yosef in response to a [http://shut.moreshet.co.il/shut2.asp?id=148520 question posed on Moreshet.co.il]</ref>
	##Some poskim say that if a woman wants to eat before davening, she should say a short prayer that includes praise of Hashem, a request to Hashem, and thanks to Hashem and then eat. It is preferable for her to also say the first paragraph of shema before eating. This solution works even if she is later going to daven a regular davening afterwards. <ref>Ishei Yisrael 13:30. See Igrot Moshe 4:101:2 who suggests that perhaps woman only need to say some request in order to fulfill tefillah on a Biblical level and then they can eat. He leaves it as an unresolved issue. See [http://www.yeshiva.org.il/midrash/3620 דברים שמותר לעשות לפני התפילה] and [http://ph.yhb.org.il/02-12-06/ Pninei Halacha Tefillah 12:6] by Rav Eliezer Melamed </ref>		##Some poskim say that if a woman wants to eat before davening, she should say a short prayer that includes praise of Hashem, a request to Hashem, and thanks to Hashem and then eat. It is preferable for her to also say the first paragraph of shema before eating. This solution works even if she is later going to daven a regular davening afterwards. <ref>Ishei Yisrael 13:30. See Igrot Moshe 4:101:2 who suggests that perhaps woman only need to say some request in order to fulfill tefillah on a Biblical level and then they can eat. He leaves it as an unresolved issue. See [http://www.yeshiva.org.il/midrash/3620 דברים שמותר לעשות לפני התפילה] and [http://ph.yhb.org.il/02-12-06/ Pninei Halacha Tefillah 12:6] by Rav Eliezer Melamed </ref>

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	#Once the time for [[Mussaf]] (from [[Olot HaShachar]]) it’s forbidden to eat a meal (more than a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread) before praying [[Mussaf]], however, it’s permissible to have a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread or a lot of fruit. <ref>The Gemara [[Brachot]] 28b writes that the halacha doesn’t follow Rav Huna who says that it’s forbidden to taste any food before praying [[Mussaf]]. The Tur 286:3 writes that even though we don’t hold like Rav Huna we only permit have a snack but a meal is forbidden. The Bet Yosef quotes the Raavad, Rashba, and perhaps the Rabbenu Yerucham who agree. S”A 286:3 writes that it’s forbidden to eat a meal before praying [[Mussaf]] but it’s permissible to have a snack. The Magen Avraham 286:2 writes that the snack is the same as before [[Mincha]] where S”A 232:3 writes that one may have a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread and a lot of fruit but not more than a KeBaytzah of bread. </ref>		#Once the time for [[Mussaf]] (from [[Olot HaShachar]]) it’s forbidden to eat a meal (more than a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread) before praying [[Mussaf]], however, it’s permissible to have a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread or a lot of fruit. <ref>The Gemara [[Brachot]] 28b writes that the halacha doesn’t follow Rav Huna who says that it’s forbidden to taste any food before praying [[Mussaf]]. The Tur 286:3 writes that even though we don’t hold like Rav Huna we only permit have a snack but a meal is forbidden. The Bet Yosef quotes the Raavad, Rashba, and perhaps the Rabbenu Yerucham who agree. S”A 286:3 writes that it’s forbidden to eat a meal before praying [[Mussaf]] but it’s permissible to have a snack. The Magen Avraham 286:2 writes that the snack is the same as before [[Mincha]] where S”A 232:3 writes that one may have a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread and a lot of fruit but not more than a KeBaytzah of bread. </ref>
	#The custom is to be lenient to permit eating even more than a Kabaytzah of baked [[Mezonot]] (cakes and cookies) before [[Mussaf]] after having made [[Kiddish]]. <ref>Shaar HaTziyun 286:7 writes that the measure for a meal before [[Mussaf]] in regards to baked [[mezonot]] is the same as by [[Sukkah]]. Mishna Brurah 639:15-6 (regarding [[Sukkah]]) quotes some who say that if one establishes a meal out of the [[Pas HaBah Bekisnin]] certainly it requires a [[Sukkah]]. However, if one didn’t have it as a meal if one had more than a [[KeBaytzah]] then there’s a dispute whether one needs a [[Sukkah]] and if one eats less than a [[KeBaytzah]] then certainly it doesn’t require a [[Sukkah]]. Nonetheless, Halichot Shlomo ([[Tefillah]] 14:9, pg 179-80) writes that the minhag is to lenient to have even more than a Kabaytzah of baked [[mezonot]]. </ref>		#The custom is to be lenient to permit eating even more than a Kabaytzah of baked [[Mezonot]] (cakes and cookies) before [[Mussaf]] after having made [[Kiddish]]. <ref>Shaar HaTziyun 286:7 writes that the measure for a meal before [[Mussaf]] in regards to baked [[mezonot]] is the same as by [[Sukkah]]. Mishna Brurah 639:15-6 (regarding [[Sukkah]]) quotes some who say that if one establishes a meal out of the [[Pas HaBah Bekisnin]] certainly it requires a [[Sukkah]]. However, if one didn’t have it as a meal if one had more than a [[KeBaytzah]] then there’s a dispute whether one needs a [[Sukkah]] and if one eats less than a [[KeBaytzah]] then certainly it doesn’t require a [[Sukkah]]. Nonetheless, Halichot Shlomo ([[Tefillah]] 14:9, pg 179-80) writes that the minhag is to lenient to have even more than a Kabaytzah of baked [[mezonot]]. </ref>
	#If one does eat before [[Mussaf]] one must first do [[Kiddish]] and have a [[Revi'it]] of wine or eat a [[Kezayit]] of baked [[mezonot]] (cakes and cookies) in order to fulfill [[Kiddish]]. <ref>Magen Avraham 286:1, Beiur Halacha 286:3 s.v. Achilat, Mishna Brurah 286:7, Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 52:17</ref>		#If one does eat before [[Mussaf]] one must first do [[Kiddish]] and have a [[Revi'it]] of wine or eat a [[Kezayit]] of baked [[mezonot]] (cakes and cookies) in order to fulfill [[Kiddish]]. <ref>Magen Avraham 286:1, Beiur Halacha 286:3 s.v. Achilat, Mishna Brurah 286:7, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 52:17</ref>

	==Women==		==Women==

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	#It’s forbidden to eat a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread or [[Pas HaBah Bekisnin]] or to drink an intoxicating drink after a half hour prior to [[Olot HaShachar]]. <ref>Mishna Brurah 89:27, Piskei Teshuvot 89:21, Ishei Yisrael 13:26 </ref> If one began before this, one may continue until [[Olot HaShachar]]. <ref>S”A 89:5, Mishna Brurah 89:27 </ref>		#It’s forbidden to eat a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread or [[Pas HaBah Bekisnin]] or to drink an intoxicating drink after a half hour prior to [[Olot HaShachar]]. <ref>Mishna Brurah 89:27, Piskei Teshuvot 89:21, Ishei Yisrael 13:26 </ref> If one began before this, one may continue until [[Olot HaShachar]]. <ref>S”A 89:5, Mishna Brurah 89:27 </ref>
	#After [[Olot HaShachar]], it’s forbidden to eat or drink anything besides water until one prays.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 89:3. Rabbi Hershel Schachter (OU Kosher Webcast [http://www.ou.org/news/ou_webcast_with_poskim_let_my_people_know/ Dec. 2011], min 28-30) says that it's not permitted to eat before [[davening]] even if one will not have a chance to eat later and advises taking food with you to work or the Beit Midrash to eat later after [[davening]].</ref>		#After [[Olot HaShachar]], it’s forbidden to eat or drink anything besides water until one prays.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 89:3. Rabbi Hershel Schachter (OU Kosher Webcast [http://www.ou.org/news/ou_webcast_with_poskim_let_my_people_know/ Dec. 2011], min 28-30) says that it's not permitted to eat before [[davening]] even if one will not have a chance to eat later and advises taking food with you to work or the Beit Midrash to eat later after [[davening]].</ref>
	#The minhag is to allowing having coffee or tea even with sugar and milk added. <ref>Ishei Yisrael 13:25, Piskei Teshuvot 89:17, Shearim Metsuyim BeHalacha 8:1, Maharsham ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41144&pgnum=160 Daat Torah 89:3])~~, Aruch Hashulchan 89:23~~, and Kaf Hachaim 89:31 say that the minhag is to have coffee or tea even with sugar or milk before davening because it is in order to enable one to daven in a better manner, it is common and not an act of arrogance. Note that the Mishneh Brurah 89:22 says that the minhag is to drink coffee and tea with sugar and milk, although he writes that there is no room to be lenient on this issue. The Be'er Heteiv quotes Acharonim who don't allow sugar in coffee.</ref>		#The minhag is to allowing having coffee or tea even with sugar and milk added. <ref>Ishei Yisrael 13:25, Piskei Teshuvot 89:17, Shearim Metsuyim BeHalacha 8:1, Maharsham ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41144&pgnum=160 Daat Torah 89:3]), and Kaf Hachaim 89:31 say that the minhag is to have coffee or tea even with sugar or milk before davening because it is in order to enable one to daven in a better manner, it is common and not an act of arrogance. Note that the Mishneh Brurah 89:22 says that the minhag is to drink coffee and tea with sugar and milk, although he writes that there is no room to be lenient on this issue. The Be'er Heteiv 89:14 quotes Acharonim who don't allow sugar in coffee. The Aruch Hashulchan 89:23 allows sugar but not milk.</ref>

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	#It’s forbidden to eat a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread or [[Pas HaBah Bekisnin]] or to drink an intoxicating drink after a half hour prior to [[Olot HaShachar]]. <ref>Mishna Brurah 89:27, Piskei Teshuvot 89:21, Ishei Yisrael 13:26 </ref> If one began before this, one may continue until [[Olot HaShachar]]. <ref>S”A 89:5, Mishna Brurah 89:27 </ref>		#It’s forbidden to eat a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread or [[Pas HaBah Bekisnin]] or to drink an intoxicating drink after a half hour prior to [[Olot HaShachar]]. <ref>Mishna Brurah 89:27, Piskei Teshuvot 89:21, Ishei Yisrael 13:26 </ref> If one began before this, one may continue until [[Olot HaShachar]]. <ref>S”A 89:5, Mishna Brurah 89:27 </ref>
	#After [[Olot HaShachar]], it’s forbidden to eat or drink anything besides water until one prays.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 89:3. Rabbi Hershel Schachter (OU Kosher Webcast [http://www.ou.org/news/ou_webcast_with_poskim_let_my_people_know/ Dec. 2011], min 28-30) says that it's not permitted to eat before [[davening]] even if one will not have a chance to eat later and advises taking food with you to work or the Beit Midrash to eat later after [[davening]].</ref>		#After [[Olot HaShachar]], it’s forbidden to eat or drink anything besides water until one prays.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 89:3. Rabbi Hershel Schachter (OU Kosher Webcast [http://www.ou.org/news/ou_webcast_with_poskim_let_my_people_know/ Dec. 2011], min 28-30) says that it's not permitted to eat before [[davening]] even if one will not have a chance to eat later and advises taking food with you to work or the Beit Midrash to eat later after [[davening]].</ref>
	#The minhag is to allowing having coffee or tea even with sugar and milk added. <ref>Ishei Yisrael 13:25, Piskei Teshuvot 89:17, Shearim Metsuyim BeHalacha 8:1, Maharsham ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41144&pgnum=160 Daat Torah 89:3]), Aruch Hashulchan 89:23, and Kaf Hachaim 89:31 say that the minhag is to have coffee or tea even with sugar or milk before davening because it is in order to enable one to daven in a better manner, it is common and not an act of arrogance. Note that the Mishneh Brurah 89:22 says that the minhag is to drink coffee and tea with sugar and milk, although he writes that there is no room to be lenient on this issue.</ref>		#The minhag is to allowing having coffee or tea even with sugar and milk added. <ref>Ishei Yisrael 13:25, Piskei Teshuvot 89:17, Shearim Metsuyim BeHalacha 8:1, Maharsham ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41144&pgnum=160 Daat Torah 89:3]), Aruch Hashulchan 89:23, and Kaf Hachaim 89:31 say that the minhag is to have coffee or tea even with sugar or milk before davening because it is in order to enable one to daven in a better manner, it is common and not an act of arrogance. Note that the Mishneh Brurah 89:22 says that the minhag is to drink coffee and tea with sugar and milk, although he writes that there is no room to be lenient on this issue. The Be'er Heteiv quotes Acharonim who don't allow sugar in coffee.</ref>

	==Mincha==		==Mincha==