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	# If one met one’s friend in the market (in a happenstance way) one may greet them by saying "Good morning" but should not say "Shalom".<ref> S”A 89:2 writes that if one meets a friend in the market one may greet them with Shalom and some say that one should greet them with good morning. Mishna Brurah 89:13 writes that we hold like the second opinion. </ref>		#If one met one’s friend in the market (in a happenstance way) one may greet them by saying "Good morning" but should not say "Shalom".<ref>S”A 89:2 writes that if one meets a friend in the market one may greet them with Shalom and some say that one should greet them with good morning. Mishna Brurah 89:13 writes that we hold like the second opinion. </ref>
	# If this is a powerful person, and one meets him on the way, one can tell him "Shalom" <ref> Mishna Brurah 89:10 </ref>.		#If this is a powerful person, and one meets him on the way, one can tell him "Shalom" <ref>Mishna Brurah 89:10 </ref>.
	# One may not go to someone’s house to greet them with “Shalom” once the time for [[Shacharit]] began. If one met the person on the way, it is preferable not to greet them with “Shalom”. <~~Ref~~> Gemara [[Brachot]] (14a) writes that one should greet someone with Shalom prior to [[Shacharit]]. Rashi and Tosfot (14a s.v. BeMashkim) hold that if one accidentally met a friend on the way one may greet them with Shalom. However, the Rashba (14a) quotes the Raavad who holds that even if one does not specifically arrange to meet one should not greet with the word “Shalom”. Shulchan Aruch 89:2 rules like Rashi (as the anonymous first opinion) that if one has not arranged to meet, one may greet a person with "Shalom". </ref>		#One may not go to someone’s house to greet them with “Shalom” once the time for [[Shacharit]] began. If one met the person on the way, it is preferable not to greet them with “Shalom”. <ref>Gemara [[Brachot]] (14a) writes that one should not greet someone with Shalom prior to [[Shacharit]]. Rashi and Tosfot (14a s.v. BeMashkim) hold that if one accidentally met a friend on the way one may greet them with Shalom. However, the Rashba (14a) quotes the Raavad who holds that even if one does not specifically arrange to meet one should not greet with the word “Shalom”. Shulchan Aruch 89:2 rules like Rashi (as the anonymous first opinion) that if one has not arranged to meet, one may greet a person with "Shalom". </ref>
	# This prohibition only applies to initiating the greeting, but it is permissible to respond to someone who greeted you. <~~Ref~~>Mishna Brurah 89:16 </ref>		#This prohibition only applies to initiating the greeting, but it is permissible to respond to someone who greeted you. <ref>Mishna Brurah 89:16 </ref>
	# Once the time for [[Shacharit]] comes until one said [[Birchot HaShachar]] one may not greet one’s friend with the word Shalom but rather should do so with good morning. <~~Ref~~>S”A 89:2 </ref>		#Once the time for [[Shacharit]] comes until one said [[Birchot HaShachar]] one may not greet one’s friend with the word Shalom but rather should do so with good morning. <ref>S”A 89:2 </ref>
	# One should not go out of one’s way to greet one’s friend, in the case that one does one should not greet them even with "Good morning", even if one already said [[Birchot HaShachar]]. <~~Ref~~>S”A 89:2, Mishna Brurah 89:12, 14 </ref>		#One should not go out of one’s way to greet one’s friend, in the case that one does one should not greet them even with "Good morning", even if one already said [[Birchot HaShachar]]. <ref>S”A 89:2, Mishna Brurah 89:12, 14 </ref>

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	# If one met one’s friend in the market (in a happenstance way) one may greet them by saying "Good morning" but should not say "Shalom". <ref> S”A 89:2 writes that if one meets a friend in the market one may greet them with Shalom and some say that one should greet them with good morning. Mishna Brurah 89:13 writes that we hold like the second opinion. </ref>		# If one met one’s friend in the market (in a happenstance way) one may greet them by saying "Good morning" but should not say "Shalom".<ref> S”A 89:2 writes that if one meets a friend in the market one may greet them with Shalom and some say that one should greet them with good morning. Mishna Brurah 89:13 writes that we hold like the second opinion. </ref>
	# If this is a powerful person, and one meets him on the way, one can tell him "Shalom" <ref> Mishna Brurah 89:10 </ref>.		# If this is a powerful person, and one meets him on the way, one can tell him "Shalom" <ref> Mishna Brurah 89:10 </ref>.
	# One may not go to someone’s house to greet them with “Shalom” once the time for [[Shacharit]] began. If one met the person on the way, it is preferable not to greet them with “Shalom”. <Ref> Gemara [[Brachot]] (14a) writes that one should greet someone with Shalom prior to [[Shacharit]]. Rashi and Tosfot (14a s.v. BeMashkim) hold that if one accidentally met a friend on the way one may greet them with Shalom. However, the Rashba (14a) quotes the Raavad who holds that even if one does not specifically arrange to meet one should not greet with the word “Shalom”. Shulchan Aruch 89:2 rules like Rashi (as the anonymous first opinion) that if one has not arranged to meet, one may greet a person with "Shalom". </ref>		# One may not go to someone’s house to greet them with “Shalom” once the time for [[Shacharit]] began. If one met the person on the way, it is preferable not to greet them with “Shalom”. <Ref> Gemara [[Brachot]] (14a) writes that one should greet someone with Shalom prior to [[Shacharit]]. Rashi and Tosfot (14a s.v. BeMashkim) hold that if one accidentally met a friend on the way one may greet them with Shalom. However, the Rashba (14a) quotes the Raavad who holds that even if one does not specifically arrange to meet one should not greet with the word “Shalom”. Shulchan Aruch 89:2 rules like Rashi (as the anonymous first opinion) that if one has not arranged to meet, one may greet a person with "Shalom". </ref>

Js: Text replacement - "Brachot HaShachar" to "Birchot HaShachar"

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	# One may not go to someone’s house to greet them with “Shalom” once the time for [[Shacharit]] began. If one met the person on the way, it is preferable not to greet them with “Shalom”. <Ref> Gemara [[Brachot]] (14a) writes that one should greet someone with Shalom prior to [[Shacharit]]. Rashi and Tosfot (14a s.v. BeMashkim) hold that if one accidentally met a friend on the way one may greet them with Shalom. However, the Rashba (14a) quotes the Raavad who holds that even if one does not specifically arrange to meet one should not greet with the word “Shalom”. Shulchan Aruch 89:2 rules like Rashi (as the anonymous first opinion) that if one has not arranged to meet, one may greet a person with "Shalom". </ref>		# One may not go to someone’s house to greet them with “Shalom” once the time for [[Shacharit]] began. If one met the person on the way, it is preferable not to greet them with “Shalom”. <Ref> Gemara [[Brachot]] (14a) writes that one should greet someone with Shalom prior to [[Shacharit]]. Rashi and Tosfot (14a s.v. BeMashkim) hold that if one accidentally met a friend on the way one may greet them with Shalom. However, the Rashba (14a) quotes the Raavad who holds that even if one does not specifically arrange to meet one should not greet with the word “Shalom”. Shulchan Aruch 89:2 rules like Rashi (as the anonymous first opinion) that if one has not arranged to meet, one may greet a person with "Shalom". </ref>
	# This prohibition only applies to initiating the greeting, but it is permissible to respond to someone who greeted you. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 89:16 </ref>		# This prohibition only applies to initiating the greeting, but it is permissible to respond to someone who greeted you. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 89:16 </ref>
	# Once the time for [[Shacharit]] comes until one said [[~~Brachot~~ HaShachar]] one may not greet one’s friend with the word Shalom but rather should do so with good morning. <Ref>S”A 89:2 </ref>		# Once the time for [[Shacharit]] comes until one said [[Birchot HaShachar]] one may not greet one’s friend with the word Shalom but rather should do so with good morning. <Ref>S”A 89:2 </ref>
	# One should not go out of one’s way to greet one’s friend, in the case that one does one should not greet them even with "Good morning", even if one already said [[~~Brachot~~ HaShachar]]. <Ref>S”A 89:2, Mishna Brurah 89:12, 14 </ref>		# One should not go out of one’s way to greet one’s friend, in the case that one does one should not greet them even with "Good morning", even if one already said [[Birchot HaShachar]]. <Ref>S”A 89:2, Mishna Brurah 89:12, 14 </ref>

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Js: Js moved page Greeting people before Davening to Greeting People before Davening

2015-06-21T12:26:30Z

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Js at 08:35, 21 June 2015

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	# If one met one’s friend in the market (in a happenstance way) one may greet ~~him with good~~ morning ~~and~~ not Shalom. <ref> S”A 89:2 writes that if one meets a friend in the market one may greet ~~him~~ with Shalom and some say that one should greet ~~him~~ with good morning. Mishna Brurah 89:13 writes that we hold like the second opinion. </ref>		# If one met one’s friend in the market (in a happenstance way) one may greet them by saying "Good morning" but should not say "Shalom". <ref> S”A 89:2 writes that if one meets a friend in the market one may greet them with Shalom and some say that one should greet them with good morning. Mishna Brurah 89:13 writes that we hold like the second opinion. </ref>
	# If this is a powerful person, and one meets him on the way, one can tell him "Shalom" <ref> ~~M"B~~ 89:10 </ref>.		# If this is a powerful person, and one meets him on the way, one can tell him "Shalom" <ref> Mishna Brurah 89:10 </ref>.
	~~# This prohibition only applies to greeting someone, but it’s permissible to respond to someone who greeted you. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 89:16 </ref>~~		# One may not go to someone’s house to greet them with “Shalom” once the time for [[Shacharit]] began. If one met the person on the way, it is preferable not to greet them with “Shalom”. <Ref> Gemara [[Brachot]] (14a) writes that one should greet someone with Shalom prior to [[Shacharit]]. Rashi and Tosfot (14a s.v. BeMashkim) hold that if one accidentally met a friend on the way one may greet them with Shalom. However, the Rashba (14a) quotes the Raavad who holds that even if one does not specifically arrange to meet one should not greet with the word “Shalom”. Shulchan Aruch 89:2 rules like Rashi (as the anonymous first opinion) that if one has not arranged to meet, one may greet a person with "Shalom". </ref>
	# One may not go to someone’s house to greet them with “Shalom” once the time for [[Shacharit]] began. If one met the person on the way, it is preferable not to greet with “Shalom”. <Ref> Gemara [[Brachot]] (14a) writes that one should greet someone with Shalom prior to [[Shacharit]]. Rashi and Tosfot (14a s.v. BeMashkim) hold that if one accidentally met a friend on the way one may greet ~~him~~ with Shalom. However, the Rashba (14a) quotes the Raavad who holds that even if one ~~doesn’t~~ specifically arrange to meet one ~~shouldn’t~~ greet with the word “Shalom”. ~~S”A~~ 89:2 rules like Rashi (as the anonymous first opinion) that if one ~~doesn’t arrange~~ to meet one may greet a person with Shalom. </ref>		# This prohibition only applies to initiating the greeting, but it is permissible to respond to someone who greeted you. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 89:16 </ref>
	# Once the time for [[Shacharit]] comes until one said [[Brachot HaShachar]] one may greet one’s friend with the word Shalom but rather with good morning. <Ref>S”A 89:2 </ref>		# Once the time for [[Shacharit]] comes until one said [[Brachot HaShachar]] one may not greet one’s friend with the word Shalom but rather should do so with good morning. <Ref>S”A 89:2 </ref>
	# ~~If one went~~ out of one’s way to greet one’s friend, one should not greet ~~him~~ with ~~good~~ morning, even if one already said [[Brachot HaShachar]]. <Ref>S”A 89:2, Mishna Brurah 89:12, 14 </ref>		# One should not go out of one’s way to greet one’s friend, in the case that one does one should not greet them even with "Good morning", even if one already said [[Brachot HaShachar]]. <Ref>S”A 89:2, Mishna Brurah 89:12, 14 </ref>

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Dlhanon at 15:47, 16 March 2014

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RobertZ at 22:13, 19 February 2014

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	# If one met one’s friend in the market (in a happenstance way) one may greet him with good morning and not Shalom. <ref> S”A 89:2 writes that if one meets a friend in the market one may greet him with Shalom and some say that one should greet him with good morning. Mishna Brurah 89:13 writes that we hold like the second opinion. ~~Mishna Brurah 89:10 writes that if one meets~~ a person and ~~there’s a fear that not greeting~~ him ~~will cause hate~~ one ~~may greet~~ him ~~with~~ Shalom. </ref>		# If one met one’s friend in the market (in a happenstance way) one may greet him with good morning and not Shalom. <ref> S”A 89:2 writes that if one meets a friend in the market one may greet him with Shalom and some say that one should greet him with good morning. Mishna Brurah 89:13 writes that we hold like the second opinion. </ref>
			# If this is a powerful person, and one meets him on the way, one can tell him "Shalom" <ref> M"B 89:10 </ref>.
	# This prohibition only applies to greeting someone, but it’s permissible to respond to someone who greeted you. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 89:16 </ref>		# This prohibition only applies to greeting someone, but it’s permissible to respond to someone who greeted you. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 89:16 </ref>
	# One may not go to someone’s house to greet them with “Shalom” once the time for Shacharit began. If one met the person on the way, it is preferable not to greet with “Shalom”. <Ref> Gemara Brachot (14a) writes that one should greet someone with Shalom prior to Shacharit. Rashi and Tosfot (14a s.v. BeMashkim) hold that if one accidentally met a friend on the way one may greet him with Shalom. However, the Rashba (14a) quotes the Raavad who holds that even if one doesn’t specifically arrange to meet one shouldn’t greet with the word “Shalom”. S”A 89:2 rules like Rashi (as the anonymous first opinion) that if one doesn’t arrange to meet one may greet a person with Shalom. </ref>		# One may not go to someone’s house to greet them with “Shalom” once the time for [[Shacharit]] began. If one met the person on the way, it is preferable not to greet with “Shalom”. <Ref> Gemara [[Brachot]] (14a) writes that one should greet someone with Shalom prior to [[Shacharit]]. Rashi and Tosfot (14a s.v. BeMashkim) hold that if one accidentally met a friend on the way one may greet him with Shalom. However, the Rashba (14a) quotes the Raavad who holds that even if one doesn’t specifically arrange to meet one shouldn’t greet with the word “Shalom”. S”A 89:2 rules like Rashi (as the anonymous first opinion) that if one doesn’t arrange to meet one may greet a person with Shalom. </ref>
	# Once the time for Shacharit comes until one said Brachot HaShachar one may greet one’s friend with the word Shalom but rather with good morning. <Ref>S”A 89:2 </ref>		# Once the time for [[Shacharit]] comes until one said [[Brachot HaShachar]] one may greet one’s friend with the word Shalom but rather with good morning. <Ref>S”A 89:2 </ref>
	# If one went out of one’s way to greet one’s friend, one should not greet him with good morning, even if one already said Brachot HaShachar. <Ref>S”A 89:2, Mishna Brurah 89:12, 14 </ref>		# If one went out of one’s way to greet one’s friend, one should not greet him with good morning, even if one already said [[Brachot HaShachar]]. <Ref>S”A 89:2, Mishna Brurah 89:12, 14 </ref>

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YitzchakSultan: Text replace - " D(.*)H " to " s.v. "

2014-01-15T21:54:19Z

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	# If one met one’s friend in the market (in a happenstance way) one may greet him with good morning and not Shalom. <ref> S”A 89:2 writes that if one meets a friend in the market one may greet him with Shalom and some say that one should greet him with good morning. Mishna Brurah 89:13 writes that we hold like the second opinion. Mishna Brurah 89:10 writes that if one meets a person and there’s a fear that not greeting him will cause hate one may greet him with Shalom. </ref>		# If one met one’s friend in the market (in a happenstance way) one may greet him with good morning and not Shalom. <ref> S”A 89:2 writes that if one meets a friend in the market one may greet him with Shalom and some say that one should greet him with good morning. Mishna Brurah 89:13 writes that we hold like the second opinion. Mishna Brurah 89:10 writes that if one meets a person and there’s a fear that not greeting him will cause hate one may greet him with Shalom. </ref>
	# This prohibition only applies to greeting someone, but it’s permissible to respond to someone who greeted you. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 89:16 </ref>		# This prohibition only applies to greeting someone, but it’s permissible to respond to someone who greeted you. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 89:16 </ref>
	# One may not go to someone’s house to greet them with “Shalom” once the time for Shacharit began. If one met the person on the way, it is preferable not to greet with “Shalom”. <Ref> Gemara Brachot (14a) writes that one should greet someone with Shalom prior to Shacharit. Rashi and Tosfot (14a ~~D”H~~ BeMashkim) hold that if one accidentally met a friend on the way one may greet him with Shalom. However, the Rashba (14a) quotes the Raavad who holds that even if one doesn’t specifically arrange to meet one shouldn’t greet with the word “Shalom”. S”A 89:2 rules like Rashi (as the anonymous first opinion) that if one doesn’t arrange to meet one may greet a person with Shalom. </ref>		# One may not go to someone’s house to greet them with “Shalom” once the time for Shacharit began. If one met the person on the way, it is preferable not to greet with “Shalom”. <Ref> Gemara Brachot (14a) writes that one should greet someone with Shalom prior to Shacharit. Rashi and Tosfot (14a s.v. BeMashkim) hold that if one accidentally met a friend on the way one may greet him with Shalom. However, the Rashba (14a) quotes the Raavad who holds that even if one doesn’t specifically arrange to meet one shouldn’t greet with the word “Shalom”. S”A 89:2 rules like Rashi (as the anonymous first opinion) that if one doesn’t arrange to meet one may greet a person with Shalom. </ref>
	# Once the time for Shacharit comes until one said Brachot HaShachar one may greet one’s friend with the word Shalom but rather with good morning. <Ref>S”A 89:2 </ref>		# Once the time for Shacharit comes until one said Brachot HaShachar one may greet one’s friend with the word Shalom but rather with good morning. <Ref>S”A 89:2 </ref>
	# If one went out of one’s way to greet one’s friend, one should not greet him with good morning, even if one already said Brachot HaShachar. <Ref>S”A 89:2, Mishna Brurah 89:12, 14 </ref>		# If one went out of one’s way to greet one’s friend, one should not greet him with good morning, even if one already said Brachot HaShachar. <Ref>S”A 89:2, Mishna Brurah 89:12, 14 </ref>

YitzchakSultan: Text replace - "==References==" to "==Sources=="

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	# If one went out of one’s way to greet one’s friend, one should not greet him with good morning, even if one already said Brachot HaShachar. <Ref>S”A 89:2, Mishna Brurah 89:12, 14 </ref>		# If one went out of one’s way to greet one’s friend, one should not greet him with good morning, even if one already said Brachot HaShachar. <Ref>S”A 89:2, Mishna Brurah 89:12, 14 </ref>

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YitzchakSultan at 01:29, 4 March 2012

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	#~~It’s forbidden~~ to go to someone’s house to greet them with “Shalom” once the time for Shacharit began. ~~However~~, ~~it’s~~ preferable not to greet with “Shalom” ~~even if one only met the person on the way~~. <Ref> Gemara Brachot (14a) writes that one should greet someone with Shalom prior to Shacharit. Rashi and Tosfot (14a D”H BeMashkim) hold that if one accidentally met a friend on the way one may greet him with Shalom. However, the Rashba (14a) quotes the Raavad who holds that even if one doesn’t specifically arrange to meet one shouldn’t greet with the word “Shalom”. S”A 89:2 rules like Rashi (as the anonymous first opinion) that if one doesn’t arrange to meet one may greet a person with Shalom. </ref>		# If one met one’s friend in the market (in a happenstance way) one may greet him with good morning and not Shalom. <ref> S”A 89:2 writes that if one meets a friend in the market one may greet him with Shalom and some say that one should greet him with good morning. Mishna Brurah 89:13 writes that we hold like the second opinion. Mishna Brurah 89:10 writes that if one meets a person and there’s a fear that not greeting him will cause hate one may greet him with Shalom. </ref>
			# This prohibition only applies to greeting someone, but it’s permissible to respond to someone who greeted you. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 89:16 </ref>
			# One may not go to someone’s house to greet them with “Shalom” once the time for Shacharit began. If one met the person on the way, it is preferable not to greet with “Shalom”. <Ref> Gemara Brachot (14a) writes that one should greet someone with Shalom prior to Shacharit. Rashi and Tosfot (14a D”H BeMashkim) hold that if one accidentally met a friend on the way one may greet him with Shalom. However, the Rashba (14a) quotes the Raavad who holds that even if one doesn’t specifically arrange to meet one shouldn’t greet with the word “Shalom”. S”A 89:2 rules like Rashi (as the anonymous first opinion) that if one doesn’t arrange to meet one may greet a person with Shalom. </ref>
	# Once the time for Shacharit comes until one said Brachot HaShachar one may greet one’s friend with the word Shalom but rather with good morning. <Ref>S”A 89:2 </ref>		# Once the time for Shacharit comes until one said Brachot HaShachar one may greet one’s friend with the word Shalom but rather with good morning. <Ref>S”A 89:2 </ref>
	# If one went out of one’s way to greet one’s friend ~~it’s forbidden even to say~~ good morning even if one already said Brachot HaShachar. <Ref>S”A 89:2, Mishna Brurah 89:12, 14 ~~</ref>~~		# If one went out of one’s way to greet one’s friend, one should not greet him with good morning, even if one already said Brachot HaShachar. <Ref>S”A 89:2, Mishna Brurah 89:12, 14 </ref>
	# If one met one’s friend in the market (in a happenstance way) one may greet him with good morning and not Shalom. <ref> S”A 89:2 writes that if one meets a friend in the market one may greet him with Shalom and some say that one should greet him with good morning. Mishna Brurah 89:13 writes that we hold like the second opinion. Mishna Brurah 89:10 writes that if one meets a person and there’s a fear that not greeting him will cause hate one may greet him with Shalom. </ref>
	~~# This prohibition only applies to greeting someone but it’s permissible to respond to someone who greeted you. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 89:16~~ </ref>

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