Opening Bottles, Cans, and Packages - Revision history

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	*The Chazon Ish 51:11 held it is [[boneh]] to open a can and make it useful.		*The Chazon Ish 51:11 held it is [[boneh]] to open a can and make it useful.
	*Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe 1:122) holds that in theory if the can is intended to be discarded after its contents are removed then it is like a mere wrapper and not a bona fide kli. Nonetheless, he forbade opening them on Shabbat. See there for his reasons.		*Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe 1:122) holds that in theory if the can is intended to be discarded after its contents are removed then it is like a mere wrapper and not a bona fide kli. Nonetheless, he forbade opening them on Shabbat. See there for his reasons.
	*Dor Hamelaktim v. 4 p. 2115 quotes many who forbid opening soda cans including Rav Moshe Feinstein (Haarot Bhalacha 2:45), Rav Yaakov Kamenetsky (Haarot Bhlacha 2:45), Rav Sheinberg (Haarot Bhalacha 2:45), Rav Elyashiv (Orchot Shabbat 11:61, Ashrei Haish 2:31:14), Rav Wosner (Kovetz Mbet Levi v. 6 p. 45), Chut Shani v. 2 p. 274, Shulchan Halevi 8:8, Rav Nevinsal responsa 293:130, and Megilat Sefer 14:4. They also cite Rav Shlomo Zalman (Minchat Shlomo 2:12) and Even Yisrael (Pitchei Halacha 2:45) as lenient.</ref>		*Rav Tzvi Pesach Frank (Tel Harim Makeh Bpatish 3) forbids opening a metal can. Dor Hamelaktim v. 4 p. 2115 quotes many who forbid opening soda cans including Rav Moshe Feinstein (Haarot Bhalacha 2:45), Rav Yaakov Kamenetsky (Haarot Bhlacha 2:45), Rav Sheinberg (Haarot Bhalacha 2:45), Rav Elyashiv (Orchot Shabbat 11:61, Ashrei Haish 2:31:14), Rav Wosner (Kovetz Mbet Levi v. 6 p. 45), Chut Shani v. 2 p. 274, Shulchan Halevi 8:8, Rav Nevinsal responsa 293:130, and Megilat Sefer 14:4. They also cite Rav Shlomo Zalman (Minchat Shlomo 2:12) and Even Yisrael (Pitchei Halacha 2:45) as lenient.</ref>
	#Sepharadim may open cans as long as it is meant for one-time use. <ref> ~~Hazon~~ Ovadia, Volume 5, Page 375 </ref>		#Sepharadim may open cans as long as it is meant for one-time use.<ref> Chazon Ovadia, Volume 5, Page 375 </ref>

	==Milk Carton==		==Milk Carton==

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Single Serving Packages

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	#It's permissible to rip open a miniature pack of sugar which is thrown out right after it's opened. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 9:4, Tiferet 314:3 citing Or Letzion 2:27:7 and Chazon Ovadia Shabbat v. 5 p. 365 </ref> Similarly, one may rip open a candy wrapper, bandaid wrapper, plastic or paper seal around wine bottles or jars because these are usually ripped and discarded immediately. <ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 833). Chazon Ish (51:11) says that even if you have intent to throw it out, it’s still forbidden because you might end up using it. Additionally, if you don’t empty it right away, the bag acts as a kli in regards to its contents. Finally, the Chazon Ish suggests that your intent is irrelevant; in the end of the day, you’re still making a kli. It should be noted that Minchas Yitzchak 4:82:36 believes that the Chazon Ish was only talking about when you specifically have intent to not throw it out, but he would actually agree that if it is generally thrown out, it would be permitted.<br /> </ref>		#It's permissible to rip open a miniature pack of sugar which is thrown out right after it's opened. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 9:4, Tiferet 314:3 citing Or Letzion 2:27:7 and Chazon Ovadia Shabbat v. 5 p. 365 </ref> Similarly, one may rip open a candy wrapper, bandaid wrapper, plastic or paper seal around wine bottles or jars because these are usually ripped and discarded immediately. <ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 833). Chazon Ish (51:11) says that even if you have intent to throw it out, it’s still forbidden because you might end up using it. Additionally, if you don’t empty it right away, the bag acts as a kli in regards to its contents. Finally, the Chazon Ish suggests that your intent is irrelevant; in the end of the day, you’re still making a kli. It should be noted that Minchas Yitzchak 4:82:36 believes that the Chazon Ish was only talking about when you specifically have intent to not throw it out, but he would actually agree that if it is generally thrown out, it would be permitted.<br /> </ref> If one intends to reuse a snack bag then opening it is forbidden. <ref> Hazon Ovadia, Volume 5, Page 375 </ref>

	==Packages stapled close==		==Packages stapled close==

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Metal Can

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	*Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe 1:122) holds that in theory if the can is intended to be discarded after its contents are removed then it is like a mere wrapper and not a bona fide kli. Nonetheless, he forbade opening them on Shabbat. See there for his reasons.		*Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe 1:122) holds that in theory if the can is intended to be discarded after its contents are removed then it is like a mere wrapper and not a bona fide kli. Nonetheless, he forbade opening them on Shabbat. See there for his reasons.
	*Dor Hamelaktim v. 4 p. 2115 quotes many who forbid opening soda cans including Rav Moshe Feinstein (Haarot Bhalacha 2:45), Rav Yaakov Kamenetsky (Haarot Bhlacha 2:45), Rav Sheinberg (Haarot Bhalacha 2:45), Rav Elyashiv (Orchot Shabbat 11:61, Ashrei Haish 2:31:14), Rav Wosner (Kovetz Mbet Levi v. 6 p. 45), Chut Shani v. 2 p. 274, Shulchan Halevi 8:8, Rav Nevinsal responsa 293:130, and Megilat Sefer 14:4. They also cite Rav Shlomo Zalman (Minchat Shlomo 2:12) and Even Yisrael (Pitchei Halacha 2:45) as lenient.</ref>		*Dor Hamelaktim v. 4 p. 2115 quotes many who forbid opening soda cans including Rav Moshe Feinstein (Haarot Bhalacha 2:45), Rav Yaakov Kamenetsky (Haarot Bhlacha 2:45), Rav Sheinberg (Haarot Bhalacha 2:45), Rav Elyashiv (Orchot Shabbat 11:61, Ashrei Haish 2:31:14), Rav Wosner (Kovetz Mbet Levi v. 6 p. 45), Chut Shani v. 2 p. 274, Shulchan Halevi 8:8, Rav Nevinsal responsa 293:130, and Megilat Sefer 14:4. They also cite Rav Shlomo Zalman (Minchat Shlomo 2:12) and Even Yisrael (Pitchei Halacha 2:45) as lenient.</ref>
			#Sepharadim may open cans as long as it is meant for one-time use. <ref> Hazon Ovadia, Volume 5, Page 375 </ref>

	==Milk Carton==		==Milk Carton==

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Non-Food Packages and Envelopes

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	==Non-Food Packages and Envelopes==		==Non-Food Packages and Envelopes==

	#A person should not open an envelope on Shabbat even by asking a non-Jew. One could hint to the non-Jew that he isn't allowed to open it on Shabbat and if he figures out to open it that is permitted.<ref>Mishna Brurah 340:41. Biur Halacha 340:13 s.v. haniyar explains that the Pri Chadash YD 118 holds that opening a letter on Shabbat is kore'ah on a biblical level since the destruction of the envelope is constructive for accessing the letter. The Biur Halacha concludes that this would depend on Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon regarding melacha shein tzaricha lgufa and as such one should be strict not to treat this is a rabbinic prohibition and ask a non-Jew even if it is a mitzvah need.</ref>		#A person should not open an envelope on Shabbat even by asking a non-Jew. One could hint to the non-Jew that he isn't allowed to open it on Shabbat and if he figures out to open it that is permitted.<ref>Mishna Brurah 340:41. Biur Halacha 340:13 s.v. haniyar explains that the Pri Chadash YD 118 holds that opening a letter on Shabbat is kore'ah on a biblical level since the destruction of the envelope is constructive for accessing the letter. The Biur Halacha concludes that this would depend on Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon regarding melacha shein tzaricha lgufa and as such one should be strict not to treat this is a rabbinic prohibition and ask a non-Jew even if it is a mitzvah need. Dor Hamelaktim v. 6 p. 3765 quotes some who are lenient to rip open an envelope on Shabbos in a destructive manner (Brit Olam Koreah 7, Even Yisrael 7:16), but most are strict (Biur Halacha 340:13, Mechzeh Eliyahu 70:16).</ref>
	#Some say that if one rips open the envelope package in a destructive fashion it is permitted.<ref>Or Letzion 2:40:5</ref> Some say it is technically permitted to open mail on Shabbat by separating the edges that were glued shut but it is better to ask a non-Jew.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 340:14:5, Yachava Daat 6:24 citing Chacham Tzvi 39</ref>		#Some say that if one rips open the envelope package in a destructive fashion it is permitted.<ref>Or Letzion 2:40:5</ref> Some say it is technically permitted to open mail on Shabbat by separating the edges that were glued shut but it is better to ask a non-Jew.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 340:14:5, Yachava Daat 6:24 citing Chacham Tzvi 39</ref>
			# Some poskim permit opening non-food packages in a destructive manner so that the package is ruined if there is there is a need for it on Shabbat.<Ref>Machzeh Eliyahu 70:16</ref> For example, opening a napkin package is permitted. It is preferable not to open a magazine package on Shabbat unless it would disturb one's oneg Shabbat greatly.<ref>[http://www.cckollel.org/parsha_encounters/5769/shelach_69.pdf Rabbi Neihaus]</ref>

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	===Plastic Caps===		===Plastic Caps===

	#Even among those who are strict, many permit opening a bottle with a plastic bottle cap because it had the form of a cap before it was ever attached and therefore separating the ring doesn't create a new utensil.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 9:17 (new edition 9:18), [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen, pg 184-6), and 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 841). 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 841) writes that a less preferable option is to twist off the cap and discard it immediately and it may be useful to have another cap handy. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach explains that it is forbidden to open a bottle cap for the first time on Shabbos because in the process one is creating a new kli, i.e. a bottle cap that can now be used to cover bottles. While it was attached to the bottle it was not yet a kli, because it could not be screwed on and off of a bottle, which Rav Shlomo Zalman considers the key function of a bottle cap. (Minchas Shlomo 2:32) Also, if one was to break the bottle and slide off the cap as is, without breaking off the ring, it would not be functional as a cap at all. (Minchas Shlomo 1:91:12)<br /> However, Rav Shlomo Zalman distinguishes between a metal bottle cap and a plastic bottle cap. The above issues are all in regards to a metal bottle cap. A plastic bottle cap is different, because the ring is thinner, and majority of it is not attached to the cap. Therefore, it is recognizable that the ring is a separate entity from the cap itself and is meant to be removed. Based on this, Rav Shlomo Zalman paskins that it is forbidden to open metal bottle caps and permitted to open plastic bottle caps.<br /> Rav Ribiat thinks that the plastic caps that Rav Shlomo Zalman allows, which were from Eretz Yisrael, are different from the plastic caps that we have in America. (39 Melachos Makeh B’Patish footnote 96c). See Meor HaShabbos page 482 who offers a new leniency for plastic caps after researching the production of plastic soda bottles.		#Even among those who are strict, many permit opening a bottle with a plastic bottle cap because it had the form of a cap before it was ever attached and therefore separating the ring doesn't create a new utensil.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 9:17 (new edition 9:18), [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen, pg 184-6), and 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 841). 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 841) writes that a less preferable option is to twist off the cap and discard it immediately and it may be useful to have another cap handy. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach explains that it is forbidden to open a bottle cap for the first time on Shabbos because in the process one is creating a new kli, i.e. a bottle cap that can now be used to cover bottles. While it was attached to the bottle it was not yet a kli, because it could not be screwed on and off of a bottle, which Rav Shlomo Zalman considers the key function of a bottle cap. (Minchas Shlomo 2:32) Also, if one was to break the bottle and slide off the cap as is, without breaking off the ring, it would not be functional as a cap at all. (Minchas Shlomo 1:91:12)<br /> However, Rav Shlomo Zalman distinguishes between a metal bottle cap and a plastic bottle cap. The above issues are all in regards to a metal bottle cap. A plastic bottle cap is different, because the ring is thinner, and majority of it is not attached to the cap. Therefore, it is recognizable that the ring is a separate entity from the cap itself and is meant to be removed. Based on this, Rav Shlomo Zalman paskins that it is forbidden to open metal bottle caps and permitted to open plastic bottle caps.<br /> Rav Ribiat thinks that the plastic caps that Rav Shlomo Zalman allows, which were from Eretz Yisrael, are different from the plastic caps that we have in America. (39 Melachos Makeh B’Patish footnote 96c). See Meor HaShabbos page 482 who offers a new leniency for plastic caps after researching the production of plastic soda bottles. See [https://www.koltorah.org/halachah/fashioning-openings-to-utensils-on-shabbat-by-rabbi-chaim-jachter Rabbi Jachter] about plastic bottle caps.
	* Dor Hamelaktim v. 4 p. 2102 quotes Rav Dovid Feinstein and Rav Yisrael Belsky (cited in Halacha Brurah 17 fnt. 38) in the name of Rav Moshe saying that it is forbidden even for plastic bottle caps.</ref>		* Dor Hamelaktim v. 4 p. 2102 quotes Rav Dovid Feinstein and Rav Yisrael Belsky (cited in Halacha Brurah 17 fnt. 38) in the name of Rav Moshe saying that it is forbidden even for plastic bottle caps.</ref>
	#Some poskim are strict even with plastic caps.<ref>Rav Elyashiv (quoted in Orchos Shabbos Perek 12 footnote 31 says that they are all assur to open. Rav Elyashiv holds it’s forbidden to open both metal and plastic caps because of mechateich. Also, Rav Nissim Karelitz (Chut Shani in Am Mekadeshei Sheviyi 2:37) says that even by plastic there is an issue of metakein kli. </ref>		#Some poskim are strict even with plastic caps.<ref>Rav Elyashiv (quoted in Orchos Shabbos Perek 12 footnote 31 says that they are all assur to open. Rav Elyashiv holds it’s forbidden to open both metal and plastic caps because of mechateich. Also, Rav Nissim Karelitz (Chut Shani in Am Mekadeshei Sheviyi 2:37) says that even by plastic there is an issue of metakein kli. </ref>

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	*'''Metakein Kli''': There is a prohibition of creating a kli on shabbos, based on Gemara Beitzah 33b regarding breaking off a piece of wood to be used as a toothpick (Shulchan Aruch 322:4). It either falls under the category of boneh or makeh b’patish. When one opens a container, he has created a receptacle that can be used to hold items.<br />		*'''Metakein Kli''': There is a prohibition of creating a kli on shabbos, based on Gemara Beitzah 33b regarding breaking off a piece of wood to be used as a toothpick (Shulchan Aruch 322:4). It either falls under the category of boneh or makeh b’patish. When one opens a container, he has created a receptacle that can be used to hold items.<br />
	*'''Koreiya''': Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Shmiras Shabbos K’hilchasa Perek 9 footnote 12) thinks there are several reasons to be meikil in regards to koreiya. Firstly, we are only dealing with koreiya midrabanan, whether it be because this is a tearing which is a tikkun (Biur Halacha 340:13 s.v. ain), or because it’s not al mnas litfor (Biur Halacha ibid. s.v. vlo). Secondly, since you are only tearing it open in order to get to the food inside, the kli is bateil to the food. He therefore concludes that there is no issur koreiya. <br />		*'''Koreiya''': Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Shmiras Shabbos K’hilchasa Perek 9 footnote 12) thinks there are several reasons to be meikil in regards to koreiya. Firstly, we are only dealing with koreiya midrabanan, whether it be because this is a tearing which is a tikkun (Biur Halacha 340:13 s.v. ain), or because it’s not al mnas litfor (Biur Halacha ibid. s.v. vlo). Secondly, since you are only tearing it open in order to get to the food inside, the kli is bateil to the food. He therefore concludes that there is no issur koreiya. <br />
	*There may be an issue of mechateich, measured cutting, if the container is opened on perforated lines. Rav Shlomo Zalman (quoted in Shmiras Shabbos K’Hilchasa Perek 11 Footnote 31) says that even when poskim get around the above issurim and say that it’s permitted to open a container, they agree that it would be an issur of mocheik if you tear words in the process. However, Yalkut Yosef Shabbos 314:19 paskins that it is not an issue of mocheik, because we are only dealing with mocheik drabanan (because it is not al minas lichtov), and you also are not miskavein, and get no hanaah from erasing the letters, so it’s a Psik Reisha D’lo Nicha Leih, and therefore it’s permitted ~~lchatchila~~.<br /></ref>		*There may be an issue of mechateich, measured cutting, if the container is opened on perforated lines. Rav Shlomo Zalman (quoted in Shmiras Shabbos K’Hilchasa Perek 11 Footnote 31) says that even when poskim get around the above issurim and say that it’s permitted to open a container, they agree that it would be an issur of mocheik if you tear words in the process. However, Yalkut Yosef Shabbos 314:19 paskins that it is not an issue of mocheik, because we are only dealing with mocheik drabanan (because it is not al minas lichtov), and you also are not miskavein, and get no hanaah from erasing the letters, so it’s a Psik Reisha D’lo Nicha Leih, and therefore it’s permitted initially.<br /></ref>
			#It is permitted to cut off the top of a barrel if the top of the barrel is a separate piece from the barrel itself.<ref>Mishna (Shabbat 146a) establishes that it is permitted to cut off the top of a barrel to access the wine on Shabbat. Shulchan Aruch O.C. 314:6 codifies this mishna. The Magen Avraham 314:7 explains that according to Tosfot that there is binyan v'stira b'kelim it is dealing with a barrel that was refurbished, with broken pieces stuck together. However, the Tur permits cutting off the lid even if it is a solid barrel since it is a separate piece from the barrel and not considered one unit with the barrel. Mishna Brurah 314:23 agrees.</ref>

	==Opening a bag or container on Shabbat==		==Opening a bag or container on Shabbat==

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Plastic Caps

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	#Even among those who are strict, many permit opening a bottle with a plastic bottle cap because it had the form of a cap before it was ever attached and therefore separating the ring doesn't create a new utensil.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 9:17 (new edition 9:18), [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen, pg 184-6), and 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 841). 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 841) writes that a less preferable option is to twist off the cap and discard it immediately and it may be useful to have another cap handy. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach explains that it is forbidden to open a bottle cap for the first time on Shabbos because in the process one is creating a new kli, i.e. a bottle cap that can now be used to cover bottles. While it was attached to the bottle it was not yet a kli, because it could not be screwed on and off of a bottle, which Rav Shlomo Zalman considers the key function of a bottle cap. (Minchas Shlomo 2:32) Also, if one was to break the bottle and slide off the cap as is, without breaking off the ring, it would not be functional as a cap at all. (Minchas Shlomo 1:91:12)<br /> However, Rav Shlomo Zalman distinguishes between a metal bottle cap and a plastic bottle cap. The above issues are all in regards to a metal bottle cap. A plastic bottle cap is different, because the ring is thinner, and majority of it is not attached to the cap. Therefore, it is recognizable that the ring is a separate entity from the cap itself and is meant to be removed. Based on this, Rav Shlomo Zalman paskins that it is forbidden to open metal bottle caps and permitted to open plastic bottle caps.<br /> Rav Ribiat thinks that the plastic caps that Rav Shlomo Zalman allows, which were from Eretz Yisrael, are different from the plastic caps that we have in America. (39 Melachos Makeh B’Patish footnote 96c). See Meor HaShabbos page 482 who offers a new leniency for plastic caps after researching the production of plastic soda bottles.</ref>		#Even among those who are strict, many permit opening a bottle with a plastic bottle cap because it had the form of a cap before it was ever attached and therefore separating the ring doesn't create a new utensil.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 9:17 (new edition 9:18), [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen, pg 184-6), and 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 841). 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 841) writes that a less preferable option is to twist off the cap and discard it immediately and it may be useful to have another cap handy. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach explains that it is forbidden to open a bottle cap for the first time on Shabbos because in the process one is creating a new kli, i.e. a bottle cap that can now be used to cover bottles. While it was attached to the bottle it was not yet a kli, because it could not be screwed on and off of a bottle, which Rav Shlomo Zalman considers the key function of a bottle cap. (Minchas Shlomo 2:32) Also, if one was to break the bottle and slide off the cap as is, without breaking off the ring, it would not be functional as a cap at all. (Minchas Shlomo 1:91:12)<br /> However, Rav Shlomo Zalman distinguishes between a metal bottle cap and a plastic bottle cap. The above issues are all in regards to a metal bottle cap. A plastic bottle cap is different, because the ring is thinner, and majority of it is not attached to the cap. Therefore, it is recognizable that the ring is a separate entity from the cap itself and is meant to be removed. Based on this, Rav Shlomo Zalman paskins that it is forbidden to open metal bottle caps and permitted to open plastic bottle caps.<br /> Rav Ribiat thinks that the plastic caps that Rav Shlomo Zalman allows, which were from Eretz Yisrael, are different from the plastic caps that we have in America. (39 Melachos Makeh B’Patish footnote 96c). See Meor HaShabbos page 482 who offers a new leniency for plastic caps after researching the production of plastic soda bottles.
			* Dor Hamelaktim v. 4 p. 2102 quotes Rav Dovid Feinstein and Rav Yisrael Belsky (cited in Halacha Brurah 17 fnt. 38) in the name of Rav Moshe saying that it is forbidden even for plastic bottle caps.</ref>
	#Some poskim are strict even with plastic caps.<ref>Rav Elyashiv (quoted in Orchos Shabbos Perek 12 footnote 31 says that they are all assur to open. Rav Elyashiv holds it’s forbidden to open both metal and plastic caps because of mechateich. Also, Rav Nissim Karelitz (Chut Shani in Am Mekadeshei Sheviyi 2:37) says that even by plastic there is an issue of metakein kli. </ref>		#Some poskim are strict even with plastic caps.<ref>Rav Elyashiv (quoted in Orchos Shabbos Perek 12 footnote 31 says that they are all assur to open. Rav Elyashiv holds it’s forbidden to open both metal and plastic caps because of mechateich. Also, Rav Nissim Karelitz (Chut Shani in Am Mekadeshei Sheviyi 2:37) says that even by plastic there is an issue of metakein kli. </ref>

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	==Non-Food Packages and Envelopes==		==Non-Food Packages and Envelopes==

	#A person should not open an envelope on Shabbat even by asking a non-Jew. One could hint to the non-Jew that he isn't allowed to open it on Shabbat and if he figures out to open it that is permitted.<ref>Mishna Brurah 340:41. Biur Halacha 340:13 s.v. haniyar explains that the Pri Chadash YD 118 holds that opening a letter on Shabbat is kore'ah on a ~~Biblical~~ level since the destruction of the envelope is constructive for accessing the letter. The Biur Halacha concludes that this would depend on Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon regarding melacha shein tzaricha lgufa and as such one should be strict not to treat this is a rabbinic prohibition and ask a non-Jew even if it is a mitzvah need.</ref>		#A person should not open an envelope on Shabbat even by asking a non-Jew. One could hint to the non-Jew that he isn't allowed to open it on Shabbat and if he figures out to open it that is permitted.<ref>Mishna Brurah 340:41. Biur Halacha 340:13 s.v. haniyar explains that the Pri Chadash YD 118 holds that opening a letter on Shabbat is kore'ah on a biblical level since the destruction of the envelope is constructive for accessing the letter. The Biur Halacha concludes that this would depend on Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon regarding melacha shein tzaricha lgufa and as such one should be strict not to treat this is a rabbinic prohibition and ask a non-Jew even if it is a mitzvah need.</ref>
	#Some say that if one rips open the envelope package in a destructive fashion it is permitted.<ref>Or Letzion 2:40:5</ref> Some say it is technically permitted to open mail on Shabbat by separating the edges that were glued shut but it is better to ask a non-Jew.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 340:14:5, Yachava Daat 6:24 citing Chacham Tzvi 39</ref>		#Some say that if one rips open the envelope package in a destructive fashion it is permitted.<ref>Or Letzion 2:40:5</ref> Some say it is technically permitted to open mail on Shabbat by separating the edges that were glued shut but it is better to ask a non-Jew.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 340:14:5, Yachava Daat 6:24 citing Chacham Tzvi 39</ref>

Unknown user: Rav Schachter Mesaken Maneh on bottle

2020-11-24T15:09:34Z

Rav Schachter Mesaken Maneh on bottle

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