Order of Taking the Four Minim - Revision history

https://halachipedia.com/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Order_of_Taking_the_Four_Minim Order of Taking the Four Minim - Revision history 2026-05-13T09:59:21Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.39.3 https://halachipedia.com/index.php?title=Order_of_Taking_the_Four_Minim&diff=34473&oldid=prev YitzchakSultan1: /* How to Hold Them */ 2026-03-23T20:51:13Z

<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">How to Hold Them</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:51, 23 March 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l49">Line 49:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 49:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Image:Rav Mordechai Eliyahu Lulav.jpg|200px|right]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Image:Rav Mordechai Eliyahu Lulav.jpg|200px|right]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#We need to hold the [[arba minim]] right side up, "biderech gedeilatan"-the way which they grow. <ref>sukka 45b. Mishna Brurah 652:16 and Chazon Ovadia Hilchot sukka page 340 say you aren't even yotze bidieved. </ref> The species shouldn't be turned downward when shaking in the downward direction, they should always be held upright and the shaking should be towards that direction.<ref>Kaf Hachaim 651:47, Chazon Ovadia p. 341</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#We need to hold the [[arba minim]] right side up, "biderech gedeilatan"-the way which they grow.<ref>sukka 45b. Mishna Brurah 652:16 and Chazon Ovadia Hilchot sukka page 340 say you aren't even yotze bidieved. </ref> The species shouldn't be turned downward when shaking in the downward direction, they should always be held upright and the shaking should be towards that direction.<ref>Kaf Hachaim 651:47, Chazon Ovadia p. 341</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Holding the four species side-wise is incorrect.<ref>Chazon Ovadia p. 341</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Holding the four species side-wise is incorrect.<ref>Chazon Ovadia p. 341</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The Etrog should be held together with the other species at the bottom of lulav.<ref>Shaar Hakavaot 103b, Ben Ish Chai (Shana Rishona Haazinu n. 14), Kaf Hachaim 651:48. The [https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjo86Gvo-PdAhVnh-AKHUJeBqUQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tapuz.co.il%2Fblogs%2Fviewentry%2F7357845&psig=AOvVaw0iGAVSyIUH3jMdY6QicO1n&ust=1538415736699429 picture of Rav Mordechai Eliyahu] to the right as well as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5gFkPxFJf4 this video of Rav Ovadia Yosef (min 1:13)] indicate that this is the correct way to hold the lulav and etrog. However, there is a Chabad minhag to hold the etrog at a slight degree away from the lulav but connected at the bottom (Sefer Haminhagim Chabad p. 66, Piskei Hasiddur dinei lulav fnt. 84).</ref> Most hold that it is fine for the Etrog to be touching the hadasim and aravot and not directly touching the lulav spine.<ref>Nitai Gavriel 54:9 citing the Shaar HaKavanot 103b</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The Etrog should be held together with the other species at the bottom of lulav.<ref>Shaar Hakavaot 103b, Ben Ish Chai (Shana Rishona Haazinu n. 14), Kaf Hachaim 651:48. The [https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjo86Gvo-PdAhVnh-AKHUJeBqUQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tapuz.co.il%2Fblogs%2Fviewentry%2F7357845&psig=AOvVaw0iGAVSyIUH3jMdY6QicO1n&ust=1538415736699429 picture of Rav Mordechai Eliyahu] to the right as well as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5gFkPxFJf4 this video of Rav Ovadia Yosef (min 1:13)] indicate that this is the correct way to hold the lulav and etrog. However, there is a Chabad minhag to hold the etrog at a slight degree away from the lulav but connected at the bottom (Sefer Haminhagim Chabad p. 66, Piskei Hasiddur dinei lulav fnt. 84).</ref> Most hold that it is fine for the Etrog to be touching the hadasim and aravot and not directly touching the lulav spine.<ref>Nitai Gavriel 54:9 citing the Shaar HaKavanot 103b</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The minhag is that the spine of the [[lulav]] should be facing towards the person shaking it. <ref>Mishna Brurah 651:47, Chazon Ovadia [[Sukkot]] 358, Ben Ish Chai Haazinu 13 against the Eliyah Rabba 650 and the Orchot Chaim 23 quoting the Raavad who say that the spine should be facing away from him </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The minhag is that the spine of the [[lulav]] should be facing towards the person shaking it.<ref>Mishna Brurah 651:47, Chazon Ovadia [[Sukkot]] 358, Ben Ish Chai Haazinu 13 against the Eliyah Rabba 650 and the Orchot Chaim 23 quoting the Raavad who say that the spine should be facing away from him </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#One should hold the [[lulav]] ([[aravot]] and [[hadasim]] included) in the right hand and the [[etrog]] in his left hand. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:2. Mishna Brurah 15 explains that this is because the [[lulav]], [[aravot]], and [[hadasim]] have three parts of the mitzva while the [[etrog]] is only one. </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#One should hold the [[lulav]] ([[aravot]] and [[hadasim]] included) in the right hand and the [[etrog]] in his left hand.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:2. Mishna Brurah 15 explains that this is because the [[lulav]], [[aravot]], and [[hadasim]] have three parts of the mitzva while the [[etrog]] is only one. </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#For people whose left hand is the stronger one,</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#For people whose left hand is the stronger one,</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Sephardim should hold it as if they were right handed and hold the [[lulav]] in the right and [[etrog]] in the left. <ref>Tur 651, Shulchan Aruch 651:3. See Kaf Hachaim 651:38. </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Sephardim should hold it as if they were right handed and hold the [[lulav]] in the right and [[etrog]] in the left. <ref>Tur 651, Shulchan Aruch 651:3. See Kaf Hachaim 651:38. </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Ashkenazim should switch it, and hold the [[lulav]] in the left hand and [[etrog]] in the right hand. <ref>Rama (quoting the Rosh 3:25 and Rabbeinu Yerucham) 651:3. Rama adds that if a lefty held it as if he were a righty, he is still yotzei. see however, Orchos Rabbeinu 2:pg. 288 that the Steipler who was a lefty and Ashkenazi, followed the Shulchan Aruch and not the Rama's ruling. </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Ashkenazim should switch it, and hold the [[lulav]] in the left hand and [[etrog]] in the right hand.<ref>Rama (quoting the Rosh 3:25 and Rabbeinu Yerucham) 651:3. Rama adds that if a lefty held it as if he were a righty, he is still yotzei. see however, Orchos Rabbeinu 2:pg. 288 that the Steipler who was a lefty and Ashkenazi, followed the Shulchan Aruch and not the Rama's ruling. </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#One should hold the [[arba minim]] against each other both for the holding and for the shaking. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:11 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#One should hold the [[arba minim]] against each other both for the holding and for the shaking.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:11 </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is prohibited to have something [[separating]] between your hands and the [[arba minim]]. Therefore, one should remove one's ring and even after the fact if one shook with a ring on some say that one has to shake the lulav again without a bracha.<ref>Beit Yosef 651 says for those who wear [[tefillin]] during [[chol hamoed]] remove it for the [[arba minim]], although technically they don't have to because it doesn't cover the whole hand. Rama 651:7 paskins like this as well. The bach and the biurei hagra there however, both say that you must remove it because its considered a chatzitza as long as its not for the hiddur mitzva. Mishna Brurah 651:36 quotes some who hold that if one shook the lulav with a ring one should shake it again after removing the ring without a bracha. See Halichot Shlomo p. 224 <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">who seems to hold </del>that a ring isn't a problem since it only covers a minority of the hand and one <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">could </del>hold the lulav even without that area of the hand.</ref> Some Sephardi poskim allow shaking lulav with a ring on if you hold it with the ends of your fingers and not the part of your finger that has the ring.<ref>Kapot Temarim (Sukkah 37a s.v. ktvu od), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9249&st=&pgnum=103 Ikrei Hadaat (33:25)], Tiferet 651:36, Halichot Shlomo (p. 224)</ref> It is permitted to wear a cast or a bandage that you can't remove while shaking the lulav.<ref>Halichot Shlomo p. 224, Chazon Ovadia 417-419 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is prohibited to have something [[separating]] between your hands and the [[arba minim]]. Therefore, one should remove one's ring and even after the fact if one shook with a ring on some say that one has to shake the lulav again without a bracha.<ref>Beit Yosef 651 says for those who wear [[tefillin]] during [[chol hamoed]] remove it for the [[arba minim]], although technically they don't have to because it doesn't cover the whole hand. Rama 651:7 paskins like this as well. The bach and the biurei hagra there however, both say that you must remove it because its considered a chatzitza as long as its not for the hiddur mitzva. Mishna Brurah 651:36 quotes some who hold that if one shook the lulav with a ring one should shake it again after removing the ring without a bracha. See Halichot Shlomo p. 224 <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">holds </ins>that a ring isn't a problem since it only covers a minority of the hand and one <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">should </ins>hold the lulav even without that area of the hand.</ref> Some Sephardi poskim allow shaking lulav with a ring on if you hold it with the ends of your fingers and not the part of your finger that has the ring.<ref>Kapot Temarim (Sukkah 37a s.v. ktvu od), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9249&st=&pgnum=103 Ikrei Hadaat (33:25)], Tiferet 651:36, Halichot Shlomo (p. 224)</ref> It is permitted to wear a cast or a bandage that you can't remove while shaking the lulav.<ref>Halichot Shlomo p. 224, Chazon Ovadia 417-419 </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may not use gloves to hold the lulav. Even after the fact one should shake it again after removing the gloves without a bracha. To avoid concerns of catching COVID one should santize one's hands before and after.<ref>Minchat Asher (Yerach Eytanim Biydan Corona n. 15), Mishna Brurah 651:33</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may not use gloves to hold the lulav. Even after the fact one should shake it again after removing the gloves without a bracha. To avoid concerns of catching COVID one should santize one's hands before and after.<ref>Minchat Asher (Yerach Eytanim Biydan Corona n. 15), Mishna Brurah 651:33</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> </table>

YitzchakSultan1 https://halachipedia.com/index.php?title=Order_of_Taking_the_Four_Minim&diff=34472&oldid=prev YitzchakSultan1: /* How to Hold Them */ 2026-03-23T20:46:50Z

<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">How to Hold Them</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:46, 23 March 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l58">Line 58:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 58:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Ashkenazim should switch it, and hold the [[lulav]] in the left hand and [[etrog]] in the right hand. <ref>Rama (quoting the Rosh 3:25 and Rabbeinu Yerucham) 651:3. Rama adds that if a lefty held it as if he were a righty, he is still yotzei. see however, Orchos Rabbeinu 2:pg. 288 that the Steipler who was a lefty and Ashkenazi, followed the Shulchan Aruch and not the Rama's ruling. </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Ashkenazim should switch it, and hold the [[lulav]] in the left hand and [[etrog]] in the right hand. <ref>Rama (quoting the Rosh 3:25 and Rabbeinu Yerucham) 651:3. Rama adds that if a lefty held it as if he were a righty, he is still yotzei. see however, Orchos Rabbeinu 2:pg. 288 that the Steipler who was a lefty and Ashkenazi, followed the Shulchan Aruch and not the Rama's ruling. </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#One should hold the [[arba minim]] against each other both for the holding and for the shaking. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:11 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#One should hold the [[arba minim]] against each other both for the holding and for the shaking. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:11 </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is prohibited to have something [[separating]] between your hands and the [[arba minim]]. Therefore, one should remove one's ring and even after the fact if one shook with a ring on some say that one has to shake the lulav again without a bracha.<ref>Beit Yosef 651 says for those who wear [[tefillin]] during [[chol hamoed]] remove it for the [[arba minim]], although technically they don't have to because it doesn't cover the whole hand. Rama 651:7 paskins like this as well. The bach and the biurei hagra there however, both say that you must remove it because its considered a chatzitza as long as its not for the hiddur mitzva. Mishna Brurah 651:36 quotes some who hold that if one shook the lulav with a ring one should shake it again after removing the ring without a bracha. See Halichot Shlomo p. 224 who seems to hold that a ring isn't a problem since it only covers a minority of the hand and one could hold the lulav even without that area of the hand.</ref> Some Sephardi poskim allow shaking lulav with a ring on.<ref>Kapot Temarim (Sukkah 37a s.v. ktvu od), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9249&st=&pgnum=103 Ikrei Hadaat (33:25)], Tiferet 651:36</ref> It is permitted to wear a cast or a bandage that you can't remove while shaking the lulav.<ref>Halichot Shlomo p. 224, Chazon Ovadia 417-419 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is prohibited to have something [[separating]] between your hands and the [[arba minim]]. Therefore, one should remove one's ring and even after the fact if one shook with a ring on some say that one has to shake the lulav again without a bracha.<ref>Beit Yosef 651 says for those who wear [[tefillin]] during [[chol hamoed]] remove it for the [[arba minim]], although technically they don't have to because it doesn't cover the whole hand. Rama 651:7 paskins like this as well. The bach and the biurei hagra there however, both say that you must remove it because its considered a chatzitza as long as its not for the hiddur mitzva. Mishna Brurah 651:36 quotes some who hold that if one shook the lulav with a ring one should shake it again after removing the ring without a bracha. See Halichot Shlomo p. 224 who seems to hold that a ring isn't a problem since it only covers a minority of the hand and one could hold the lulav even without that area of the hand.</ref> Some Sephardi poskim allow shaking lulav with a ring on <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">if you hold it with the ends of your fingers and not the part of your finger that has the ring</ins>.<ref>Kapot Temarim (Sukkah 37a s.v. ktvu od), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9249&st=&pgnum=103 Ikrei Hadaat (33:25)], Tiferet 651:36<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, Halichot Shlomo (p. 224)</ins></ref> It is permitted to wear a cast or a bandage that you can't remove while shaking the lulav.<ref>Halichot Shlomo p. 224, Chazon Ovadia 417-419 </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may not use gloves to hold the lulav. Even after the fact one should shake it again after removing the gloves without a bracha. To avoid concerns of catching COVID one should santize one's hands before and after.<ref>Minchat Asher (Yerach Eytanim Biydan Corona n. 15), Mishna Brurah 651:33</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may not use gloves to hold the lulav. Even after the fact one should shake it again after removing the gloves without a bracha. To avoid concerns of catching COVID one should santize one's hands before and after.<ref>Minchat Asher (Yerach Eytanim Biydan Corona n. 15), Mishna Brurah 651:33</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> </table>

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<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">How to Hold Them</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:37, 23 March 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l58">Line 58:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 58:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Ashkenazim should switch it, and hold the [[lulav]] in the left hand and [[etrog]] in the right hand. <ref>Rama (quoting the Rosh 3:25 and Rabbeinu Yerucham) 651:3. Rama adds that if a lefty held it as if he were a righty, he is still yotzei. see however, Orchos Rabbeinu 2:pg. 288 that the Steipler who was a lefty and Ashkenazi, followed the Shulchan Aruch and not the Rama's ruling. </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##Ashkenazim should switch it, and hold the [[lulav]] in the left hand and [[etrog]] in the right hand. <ref>Rama (quoting the Rosh 3:25 and Rabbeinu Yerucham) 651:3. Rama adds that if a lefty held it as if he were a righty, he is still yotzei. see however, Orchos Rabbeinu 2:pg. 288 that the Steipler who was a lefty and Ashkenazi, followed the Shulchan Aruch and not the Rama's ruling. </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#One should hold the [[arba minim]] against each other both for the holding and for the shaking. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:11 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#One should hold the [[arba minim]] against each other both for the holding and for the shaking. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:11 </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is prohibited to have something [[separating]] between your hands and the [[arba minim]]. Therefore, one should remove one's ring and even after the fact if one shook with a ring on some say that one has to shake the lulav again without a bracha. <ref>Beit Yosef 651 says for those who wear [[tefillin]] during [[chol hamoed]] remove it for the [[arba minim]], although technically they don't have to because it doesn't cover the whole hand. Rama 651:7 paskins like this as well. The bach and the biurei hagra there however, both say that you must remove it because its considered a chatzitza as long as its not for the hiddur mitzva. Mishna Brurah 651:36 quotes some who hold that if one shook the lulav with a ring one should shake it again after removing the ring without a bracha. See Halichot Shlomo p. 224 who seems to hold that a ring isn't a problem since it only covers a minority of the hand and one could hold the lulav even without that area of the hand.</ref> It is permitted to wear a cast or a bandage that you can't remove while shaking the lulav.<ref>Halichot Shlomo p. 224, Chazon Ovadia 417-419 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is prohibited to have something [[separating]] between your hands and the [[arba minim]]. Therefore, one should remove one's ring and even after the fact if one shook with a ring on some say that one has to shake the lulav again without a bracha.<ref>Beit Yosef 651 says for those who wear [[tefillin]] during [[chol hamoed]] remove it for the [[arba minim]], although technically they don't have to because it doesn't cover the whole hand. Rama 651:7 paskins like this as well. The bach and the biurei hagra there however, both say that you must remove it because its considered a chatzitza as long as its not for the hiddur mitzva. Mishna Brurah 651:36 quotes some who hold that if one shook the lulav with a ring one should shake it again after removing the ring without a bracha. See Halichot Shlomo p. 224 who seems to hold that a ring isn't a problem since it only covers a minority of the hand and one could hold the lulav even without that area of the hand.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ref> Some Sephardi poskim allow shaking lulav with a ring on.<ref>Kapot Temarim (Sukkah 37a s.v. ktvu od), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9249&st=&pgnum=103 Ikrei Hadaat (33:25)], Tiferet 651:36</ins></ref> It is permitted to wear a cast or a bandage that you can't remove while shaking the lulav.<ref>Halichot Shlomo p. 224, Chazon Ovadia 417-419 </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may not use gloves to hold the lulav. Even after the fact one should shake it again after removing the gloves without a bracha. To avoid concerns of catching COVID one should santize one's hands before and after.<ref>Minchat Asher (Yerach Eytanim Biydan Corona n. 15), Mishna Brurah 651:33</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may not use gloves to hold the lulav. Even after the fact one should shake it again after removing the gloves without a bracha. To avoid concerns of catching COVID one should santize one's hands before and after.<ref>Minchat Asher (Yerach Eytanim Biydan Corona n. 15), Mishna Brurah 651:33</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> </table>

YitzchakSultan1 https://halachipedia.com/index.php?title=Order_of_Taking_the_Four_Minim&diff=34469&oldid=prev YitzchakSultan1: /* Beracha */ 2026-03-17T20:59:56Z

<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Beracha</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:59, 17 March 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l13">Line 13:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># If one didn't take the [[four minim]] on the first day, then he says [[shehecheyanu]] the first time that he does. <ref>Mishna Brurah 662:3 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># If one didn't take the [[four minim]] on the first day, then he says [[shehecheyanu]] the first time that he does. <ref>Mishna Brurah 662:3 </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The beracha and taking of the [[arba minim]] should be done while standing, but if you sat, you are yotzei bidieved. <ref>Chazon Ovadia p. 416 quoting the Shibbolei Haleket 366, and the Sefer Yereim 114 that its based on a gezeira shava learned from [[sefirat haomer]]. The halacha regarding [[sefirat haomer]] is in Rambam Hilchot Temidim Umusafim 7:23. Mahari Vayil 191 explicitly states that one should shake the lulav while standing. Lehorot Natan 11:69 concludes that both the bracha and mitzvah should be done standing.</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The beracha and taking of the [[arba minim]] should be done while standing, but if you sat, you are yotzei bidieved. <ref>Chazon Ovadia p. 416 quoting the Shibbolei Haleket 366, and the Sefer Yereim 114 that its based on a gezeira shava learned from [[sefirat haomer]]. The halacha regarding [[sefirat haomer]] is in Rambam Hilchot Temidim Umusafim 7:23. Mahari Vayil 191 explicitly states that one should shake the lulav while standing. Lehorot Natan 11:69 concludes that both the bracha and mitzvah should be done standing.</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">#Some say that a person should pick up the Etrog first and put it down after putting down the lulav first,<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=6059&st=&pgnum=189 Ibn Shuiv 94d], Mateh Moshe 928, Magen Avraham 651:8. This is learned from a comparison to Tefillin, that the Etrog comes first in the pasuk like Tefillin shel yad. </ref> however, the halacha does not follow that opinion.<ref>Dagul Mirvava (on Magen Avraham 651:8) based on Rambam, Tosfot 39a, Rosh, and Tur 651:5</ref></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==When to make the Bracha==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==When to make the Bracha==</div></td></tr> </table>

YitzchakSultan1 https://halachipedia.com/index.php?title=Order_of_Taking_the_Four_Minim&diff=34467&oldid=prev YitzchakSultan1: /* How to Bind the 4 Minim (Eged) */ 2026-03-16T21:16:53Z

<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">How to Bind the 4 Minim (Eged)</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:16, 16 March 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l40">Line 40:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 40:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The halacha follows the opinion that it is not necessary to have the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot bound up together, however, it is a mitzvah and proper to do so to make the 4 minim look nicer.<ref>Gemara Sukkah 33a and 36b cites a dispute between Rabbi Yehuda who holds that there is an obligation to bind the 3 minim together and the Rabbis who hold that it is only preferable in order to make the mitzvah nicer. Rambam (Lulav 7:4) and Shulchan Aruch O.C. 651:1 hold like the Rabbis.</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The halacha follows the opinion that it is not necessary to have the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot bound up together, however, it is a mitzvah and proper to do so to make the 4 minim look nicer.<ref>Gemara Sukkah 33a and 36b cites a dispute between Rabbi Yehuda who holds that there is an obligation to bind the 3 minim together and the Rabbis who hold that it is only preferable in order to make the mitzvah nicer. Rambam (Lulav 7:4) and Shulchan Aruch O.C. 651:1 hold like the Rabbis.</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The Etrog is not tied up with the other 3 minim. It is held in the left hand while the others are held in the right hand.<ref>Rambam (Lulav 7:4), Shulchan Aruch 651:2, Yalkut Yosef 651:2</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The Etrog is not tied up with the other 3 minim. It is held in the left hand while the others are held in the right hand.<ref>Rambam (Lulav 7:4), Shulchan Aruch 651:2, Yalkut Yosef 651:2</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is proper to bind the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot with a double knot.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to allow using the kashekel's (woven lulav leaf holders) and consider them to be a binding of the 3 minim.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=19746&pgnum=32 Agurah BeOhalecha 33] writes that using a woven lulav holder is valid since it keeps the 4 minim together and the egged doesn't need to be a knot, just something that is tight. Mishna Brurah 651:8 cites the Agura Bohalecha. Aruch Hashulchan 551:7 also allows using a kashekel because it looks nice. Bikkurei Yacov 651:8 writes that lulav rings as a binding is the equivalent of using a lulav kashekel. </ref> For Sephardim, it is advised to tie the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot and not just use a holder.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Kaf_HaChayim_on_Shulchan_Arukh%2C_Orach_Chayim.651.11?lang=bi Kaf Hachaim 651:11], Yalkut Yosef 651:3, Chazon Ovadia p. 347, Rav Soloveitchik (Nefesh Harav p. 217). [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1120&pgnum=245 Bet Dovid 554] writes that a person should not use a woven lulav holder because it is necessary to have an eged that is tied together, such as a double knot. Kaf Hachaim writes that it is proper to be strict. Chazon Ovadia writes that it is proper to follow the Bet Dovid but there is what to rely upon to follow the Agura Bohalecha. Rav Soloveitchik held that the keshekel isn't a double knot and also there's an issue of taaseh v'lo min ha'asuy to take the minim out of the eged and replace them without retying it. (See Rashi and Rabbenu Chananel on Sukka 11a.) </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is proper to bind the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot with a double knot.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to allow using the kashekel's (woven lulav leaf holders) and consider them to be a binding of the 3 minim.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=19746&pgnum=32 Agurah BeOhalecha 33] writes that using a woven lulav holder is valid since it keeps the 4 minim together and the egged doesn't need to be a knot, just something that is tight. Mishna Brurah 651:8 cites the Agura Bohalecha. Aruch Hashulchan 551:7 also allows using a kashekel because it looks nice<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky (Kovetz Halachot Sukka p. 344) is lenient</ins>. Bikkurei Yacov 651:8 writes that lulav rings as a binding is the equivalent of using a lulav kashekel <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and he's strict to use a double knot</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> </ins></ref> For Sephardim, it is advised to tie the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot and not just use a holder.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Kaf_HaChayim_on_Shulchan_Arukh%2C_Orach_Chayim.651.11?lang=bi Kaf Hachaim 651:11], Yalkut Yosef 651:3, Chazon Ovadia p. 347, Rav Soloveitchik (Nefesh Harav p. 217). [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1120&pgnum=245 Bet Dovid 554] writes that a person should not use a woven lulav holder because it is necessary to have an eged that is tied together, such as a double knot. Kaf Hachaim writes that it is proper to be strict. Chazon Ovadia writes that it is proper to follow the Bet Dovid but there is what to rely upon to follow the Agura Bohalecha. Rav Soloveitchik held that the keshekel isn't a double knot and also there's an issue of taaseh v'lo min ha'asuy to take the minim out of the eged and replace them without retying it. (See Rashi and Rabbenu Chananel on Sukka 11a.) </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#If one forgot and didn't tie them before the holiday, one shouldn't tie them with a knot on Yom Tov.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1 writes that one may not tie a knot for the purposes of binding the 3 minim. See, the Chida ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=33684&st=&pgnum=37 Moreh BeEtzbah n. 291]) seems to say that there's no issue of making knots with lulav leaves. Kaf HaChaim 651:19 rejects this opinion. Yalkut Yosef 651:6 writes that if one didn't tie it before Yom Tov there's what to rely on to tie it with a double knot on Yom Tov.</ref> Rather one should take a string, wrap them up, and tuck in the end of the string.<ref>Tur and Rama 651:1, Yalkut Yosef 651:6</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#If one forgot and didn't tie them before the holiday, one shouldn't tie them with a knot on Yom Tov.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1 writes that one may not tie a knot for the purposes of binding the 3 minim. See, the Chida ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=33684&st=&pgnum=37 Moreh BeEtzbah n. 291]) seems to say that there's no issue of making knots with lulav leaves. Kaf HaChaim 651:19 rejects this opinion. Yalkut Yosef 651:6 writes that if one didn't tie it before Yom Tov there's what to rely on to tie it with a double knot on Yom Tov.</ref> Rather one should take a string, wrap them up, and tuck in the end of the string.<ref>Tur and Rama 651:1, Yalkut Yosef 651:6</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##If one didn't do so before Yom Tov, it is permitted to peel off a leaf of the Lulav to hold the minim together with a slip knot or winding them together and tucking in the end.<ref>Kaf HaChaim 651:20</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to refrain from doing this except in private and in an abnormal fashion.<ref>Shaarei Teshuva 651:3, Piskei Teshuvot 651:3</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##If one didn't do so before Yom Tov, it is permitted to peel off a leaf of the Lulav to hold the minim together with a slip knot or winding them together and tucking in the end.<ref>Kaf HaChaim 651:20</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to refrain from doing this except in private and in an abnormal fashion.<ref>Shaarei Teshuva 651:3, Piskei Teshuvot 651:3</ref></div></td></tr> </table>

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<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">How to Bind the 4 Minim (Eged)</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:14, 16 March 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l40">Line 40:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 40:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The halacha follows the opinion that it is not necessary to have the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot bound up together, however, it is a mitzvah and proper to do so to make the 4 minim look nicer.<ref>Gemara Sukkah 33a and 36b cites a dispute between Rabbi Yehuda who holds that there is an obligation to bind the 3 minim together and the Rabbis who hold that it is only preferable in order to make the mitzvah nicer. Rambam (Lulav 7:4) and Shulchan Aruch O.C. 651:1 hold like the Rabbis.</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The halacha follows the opinion that it is not necessary to have the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot bound up together, however, it is a mitzvah and proper to do so to make the 4 minim look nicer.<ref>Gemara Sukkah 33a and 36b cites a dispute between Rabbi Yehuda who holds that there is an obligation to bind the 3 minim together and the Rabbis who hold that it is only preferable in order to make the mitzvah nicer. Rambam (Lulav 7:4) and Shulchan Aruch O.C. 651:1 hold like the Rabbis.</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The Etrog is not tied up with the other 3 minim. It is held in the left hand while the others are held in the right hand.<ref>Rambam (Lulav 7:4), Shulchan Aruch 651:2, Yalkut Yosef 651:2</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The Etrog is not tied up with the other 3 minim. It is held in the left hand while the others are held in the right hand.<ref>Rambam (Lulav 7:4), Shulchan Aruch 651:2, Yalkut Yosef 651:2</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is proper to bind the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot with a double knot.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to allow using the kashekel's (woven lulav leaf holders) and consider them to be a binding of the 3 minim.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=19746&pgnum=32 Agurah BeOhalecha 33] writes that using a woven lulav holder is valid since it keeps the 4 minim together and the egged doesn't need to be a knot, just something that is tight. Mishna Brurah 651:8 cites the Agura Bohalecha. Aruch Hashulchan 551:7 also allows using a kashekel because it looks nice. Bikkurei Yacov 651:8 writes that lulav rings as a binding is the equivalent of using a lulav kashekel. </ref> For Sephardim, it is advised to tie the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot and not just use a holder.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 651:3. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1120&pgnum=245 Bet Dovid 554] writes that a person should not use a woven lulav holder because it is necessary to have an eged that is tied together, such as a double knot. </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is proper to bind the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot with a double knot.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to allow using the kashekel's (woven lulav leaf holders) and consider them to be a binding of the 3 minim.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=19746&pgnum=32 Agurah BeOhalecha 33] writes that using a woven lulav holder is valid since it keeps the 4 minim together and the egged doesn't need to be a knot, just something that is tight. Mishna Brurah 651:8 cites the Agura Bohalecha. Aruch Hashulchan 551:7 also allows using a kashekel because it looks nice. Bikkurei Yacov 651:8 writes that lulav rings as a binding is the equivalent of using a lulav kashekel. </ref> For Sephardim, it is advised to tie the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot and not just use a holder.<ref><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[https://www.sefaria.org/Kaf_HaChayim_on_Shulchan_Arukh%2C_Orach_Chayim.651.11?lang=bi Kaf Hachaim 651:11], </ins>Yalkut Yosef 651:3<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, Chazon Ovadia p. 347, Rav Soloveitchik (Nefesh Harav p. 217)</ins>. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1120&pgnum=245 Bet Dovid 554] writes that a person should not use a woven lulav holder because it is necessary to have an eged that is tied together, such as a double knot. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Kaf Hachaim writes that it is proper to be strict. Chazon Ovadia writes that it is proper to follow the Bet Dovid but there is what to rely upon to follow the Agura Bohalecha. Rav Soloveitchik held that the keshekel isn't a double knot and also there's an issue of taaseh v'lo min ha'asuy to take the minim out of the eged and replace them without retying it. (See Rashi and Rabbenu Chananel on Sukka 11a.) </ins></ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#If one forgot and didn't tie them before the holiday, one shouldn't tie them with a knot on Yom Tov.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1 writes that one may not tie a knot for the purposes of binding the 3 minim. See, the Chida ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=33684&st=&pgnum=37 Moreh BeEtzbah n. 291]) seems to say that there's no issue of making knots with lulav leaves. Kaf HaChaim 651:19 rejects this opinion. Yalkut Yosef 651:6 writes that if one didn't tie it before Yom Tov there's what to rely on to tie it with a double knot on Yom Tov.</ref> Rather one should take a string, wrap them up, and tuck in the end of the string.<ref>Tur and Rama 651:1, Yalkut Yosef 651:6</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#If one forgot and didn't tie them before the holiday, one shouldn't tie them with a knot on Yom Tov.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1 writes that one may not tie a knot for the purposes of binding the 3 minim. See, the Chida ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=33684&st=&pgnum=37 Moreh BeEtzbah n. 291]) seems to say that there's no issue of making knots with lulav leaves. Kaf HaChaim 651:19 rejects this opinion. Yalkut Yosef 651:6 writes that if one didn't tie it before Yom Tov there's what to rely on to tie it with a double knot on Yom Tov.</ref> Rather one should take a string, wrap them up, and tuck in the end of the string.<ref>Tur and Rama 651:1, Yalkut Yosef 651:6</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##If one didn't do so before Yom Tov, it is permitted to peel off a leaf of the Lulav to hold the minim together with a slip knot or winding them together and tucking in the end.<ref>Kaf HaChaim 651:20</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to refrain from doing this except in private and in an abnormal fashion.<ref>Shaarei Teshuva 651:3, Piskei Teshuvot 651:3</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##If one didn't do so before Yom Tov, it is permitted to peel off a leaf of the Lulav to hold the minim together with a slip knot or winding them together and tucking in the end.<ref>Kaf HaChaim 651:20</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to refrain from doing this except in private and in an abnormal fashion.<ref>Shaarei Teshuva 651:3, Piskei Teshuvot 651:3</ref></div></td></tr> </table>

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<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">How to Bind the 4 Minim (Eged)</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:18, 16 March 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l40">Line 40:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 40:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The halacha follows the opinion that it is not necessary to have the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot bound up together, however, it is a mitzvah and proper to do so to make the 4 minim look nicer.<ref>Gemara Sukkah 33a and 36b cites a dispute between Rabbi Yehuda who holds that there is an obligation to bind the 3 minim together and the Rabbis who hold that it is only preferable in order to make the mitzvah nicer. Rambam (Lulav 7:4) and Shulchan Aruch O.C. 651:1 hold like the Rabbis.</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The halacha follows the opinion that it is not necessary to have the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot bound up together, however, it is a mitzvah and proper to do so to make the 4 minim look nicer.<ref>Gemara Sukkah 33a and 36b cites a dispute between Rabbi Yehuda who holds that there is an obligation to bind the 3 minim together and the Rabbis who hold that it is only preferable in order to make the mitzvah nicer. Rambam (Lulav 7:4) and Shulchan Aruch O.C. 651:1 hold like the Rabbis.</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The Etrog is not tied up with the other 3 minim. It is held in the left hand while the others are held in the right hand.<ref>Rambam (Lulav 7:4), Shulchan Aruch 651:2, Yalkut Yosef 651:2</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The Etrog is not tied up with the other 3 minim. It is held in the left hand while the others are held in the right hand.<ref>Rambam (Lulav 7:4), Shulchan Aruch 651:2, Yalkut Yosef 651:2</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is proper to bind the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot with a double knot.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to allow using the kashekel's (woven lulav leaf holders) and consider them to be a binding of the 3 minim.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=19746&pgnum=32 Agurah BeOhalecha 33] writes that using a woven lulav holder is valid since it keeps the 4 minim together and the egged doesn't need to be a knot, just something that is tight. Mishna Brurah 651:8 cites the Agura Bohalecha. Bikkurei Yacov 651:8 writes that lulav rings as a binding is the equivalent of using a lulav kashekel. </ref> For Sephardim, it is advised to tie the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot and not just use a holder.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 651:3. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1120&pgnum=245 Bet Dovid 554] writes that a person should not use a woven lulav holder because it is necessary to have an eged that is tied together, such as a double knot. </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is proper to bind the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot with a double knot.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to allow using the kashekel's (woven lulav leaf holders) and consider them to be a binding of the 3 minim.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=19746&pgnum=32 Agurah BeOhalecha 33] writes that using a woven lulav holder is valid since it keeps the 4 minim together and the egged doesn't need to be a knot, just something that is tight. Mishna Brurah 651:8 cites the Agura Bohalecha<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Aruch Hashulchan 551:7 also allows using a kashekel because it looks nice</ins>. Bikkurei Yacov 651:8 writes that lulav rings as a binding is the equivalent of using a lulav kashekel. </ref> For Sephardim, it is advised to tie the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot and not just use a holder.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 651:3. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1120&pgnum=245 Bet Dovid 554] writes that a person should not use a woven lulav holder because it is necessary to have an eged that is tied together, such as a double knot. </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#If one forgot and didn't tie them before the holiday, one shouldn't tie them with a knot on Yom Tov.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1 writes that one may not tie a knot for the purposes of binding the 3 minim. See, the Chida ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=33684&st=&pgnum=37 Moreh BeEtzbah n. 291]) seems to say that there's no issue of making knots with lulav leaves. Kaf HaChaim 651:19 rejects this opinion. Yalkut Yosef 651:6 writes that if one didn't tie it before Yom Tov there's what to rely on to tie it with a double knot on Yom Tov.</ref> Rather one should take a string, wrap them up, and tuck in the end of the string.<ref>Tur and Rama 651:1, Yalkut Yosef 651:6</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#If one forgot and didn't tie them before the holiday, one shouldn't tie them with a knot on Yom Tov.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1 writes that one may not tie a knot for the purposes of binding the 3 minim. See, the Chida ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=33684&st=&pgnum=37 Moreh BeEtzbah n. 291]) seems to say that there's no issue of making knots with lulav leaves. Kaf HaChaim 651:19 rejects this opinion. Yalkut Yosef 651:6 writes that if one didn't tie it before Yom Tov there's what to rely on to tie it with a double knot on Yom Tov.</ref> Rather one should take a string, wrap them up, and tuck in the end of the string.<ref>Tur and Rama 651:1, Yalkut Yosef 651:6</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##If one didn't do so before Yom Tov, it is permitted to peel off a leaf of the Lulav to hold the minim together with a slip knot or winding them together and tucking in the end.<ref>Kaf HaChaim 651:20</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to refrain from doing this except in private and in an abnormal fashion.<ref>Shaarei Teshuva 651:3, Piskei Teshuvot 651:3</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##If one didn't do so before Yom Tov, it is permitted to peel off a leaf of the Lulav to hold the minim together with a slip knot or winding them together and tucking in the end.<ref>Kaf HaChaim 651:20</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to refrain from doing this except in private and in an abnormal fashion.<ref>Shaarei Teshuva 651:3, Piskei Teshuvot 651:3</ref></div></td></tr> </table>

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<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">How to Bind the 4 Minim (Eged)</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:13, 16 March 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l40">Line 40:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 40:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The halacha follows the opinion that it is not necessary to have the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot bound up together, however, it is a mitzvah and proper to do so to make the 4 minim look nicer.<ref>Gemara Sukkah 33a and 36b cites a dispute between Rabbi Yehuda who holds that there is an obligation to bind the 3 minim together and the Rabbis who hold that it is only preferable in order to make the mitzvah nicer. Rambam (Lulav 7:4) and Shulchan Aruch O.C. 651:1 hold like the Rabbis.</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The halacha follows the opinion that it is not necessary to have the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot bound up together, however, it is a mitzvah and proper to do so to make the 4 minim look nicer.<ref>Gemara Sukkah 33a and 36b cites a dispute between Rabbi Yehuda who holds that there is an obligation to bind the 3 minim together and the Rabbis who hold that it is only preferable in order to make the mitzvah nicer. Rambam (Lulav 7:4) and Shulchan Aruch O.C. 651:1 hold like the Rabbis.</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The Etrog is not tied up with the other 3 minim. It is held in the left hand while the others are held in the right hand.<ref>Rambam (Lulav 7:4), Shulchan Aruch 651:2, Yalkut Yosef 651:2</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The Etrog is not tied up with the other 3 minim. It is held in the left hand while the others are held in the right hand.<ref>Rambam (Lulav 7:4), Shulchan Aruch 651:2, Yalkut Yosef 651:2</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is proper to bind the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot with a double knot.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to allow using the kashekel's (woven lulav leaf holders) and consider them to be a binding of the 3 minim.<ref>Mishna Brurah 651:8 <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">citing </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Agurah BeOhalecha</del>. Bikkurei Yacov 651:8 writes that lulav rings as a binding is the equivalent of using a lulav kashekel. </ref>For Sephardim, it is advised to tie the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot and not just use a holder.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 651:3</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is proper to bind the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot with a double knot.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to allow using the kashekel's (woven lulav leaf holders) and consider them to be a binding of the 3 minim.<ref><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=19746&pgnum=32 Agurah BeOhalecha 33] writes that using a woven lulav holder is valid since it keeps the 4 minim together and the egged doesn't need to be a knot, just something that is tight. </ins>Mishna Brurah 651:8 <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">cites </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Agura Bohalecha</ins>. Bikkurei Yacov 651:8 writes that lulav rings as a binding is the equivalent of using a lulav kashekel. </ref> For Sephardim, it is advised to tie the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot and not just use a holder.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 651:3<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1120&pgnum=245 Bet Dovid 554] writes that a person should not use a woven lulav holder because it is necessary to have an eged that is tied together, such as a double knot. </ins></ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#If one forgot and didn't tie them before the holiday, one shouldn't tie them with a knot on Yom Tov.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1 writes that one may not tie a knot for the purposes of binding the 3 minim. See, the Chida ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=33684&st=&pgnum=37 Moreh BeEtzbah n. 291]) seems to say that there's no issue of making knots with lulav leaves. Kaf HaChaim 651:19 rejects this opinion. Yalkut Yosef 651:6 writes that if one didn't tie it before Yom Tov there's what to rely on to tie it with a double knot on Yom Tov.</ref> Rather one should take a string, wrap them up, and tuck in the end of the string.<ref>Tur and Rama 651:1, Yalkut Yosef 651:6</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#If one forgot and didn't tie them before the holiday, one shouldn't tie them with a knot on Yom Tov.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1 writes that one may not tie a knot for the purposes of binding the 3 minim. See, the Chida ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=33684&st=&pgnum=37 Moreh BeEtzbah n. 291]) seems to say that there's no issue of making knots with lulav leaves. Kaf HaChaim 651:19 rejects this opinion. Yalkut Yosef 651:6 writes that if one didn't tie it before Yom Tov there's what to rely on to tie it with a double knot on Yom Tov.</ref> Rather one should take a string, wrap them up, and tuck in the end of the string.<ref>Tur and Rama 651:1, Yalkut Yosef 651:6</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##If one didn't do so before Yom Tov, it is permitted to peel off a leaf of the Lulav to hold the minim together with a slip knot or winding them together and tucking in the end.<ref>Kaf HaChaim 651:20</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to refrain from doing this except in private and in an abnormal fashion.<ref>Shaarei Teshuva 651:3, Piskei Teshuvot 651:3</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>##If one didn't do so before Yom Tov, it is permitted to peel off a leaf of the Lulav to hold the minim together with a slip knot or winding them together and tucking in the end.<ref>Kaf HaChaim 651:20</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to refrain from doing this except in private and in an abnormal fashion.<ref>Shaarei Teshuva 651:3, Piskei Teshuvot 651:3</ref></div></td></tr> </table>

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<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">How to Bind the 4 Minim (Eged)</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 13:51, 14 October 2024</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l36">Line 36:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 36:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is preferable not to have a non-jew tie them together for you, but if he does it is still kosher. <ref>Yalkut Yosef Moadim page 159 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is preferable not to have a non-jew tie them together for you, but if he does it is still kosher. <ref>Yalkut Yosef Moadim page 159 </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==How to Bind the 4 Minim (Eged)==</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==How to Bind the 4 Minim (<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''</ins>Eged<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''</ins>)==</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The halacha follows the opinion that it is not necessary to have the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot bound up together, however, it is a mitzvah and proper to do so to make the 4 minim look nicer.<ref>Gemara Sukkah 33a cites a dispute between Rabbi Yehuda who holds that there is an obligation to bind the 3 minim together and the Rabbis who hold that it is only preferable in order to make the mitzvah nicer. Rambam (Lulav 7:4) and Shulchan Aruch 651:1 hold like the Rabbis.</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The halacha follows the opinion that it is not necessary to have the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot bound up together, however, it is a mitzvah and proper to do so to make the 4 minim look nicer.<ref>Gemara Sukkah 33a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and 36b </ins>cites a dispute between Rabbi Yehuda who holds that there is an obligation to bind the 3 minim together and the Rabbis who hold that it is only preferable in order to make the mitzvah nicer. Rambam (Lulav 7:4) and Shulchan Aruch <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">O.C. </ins>651:1 hold like the Rabbis.</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The Etrog is not tied up with the other 3 minim. It is held in the left hand while the others are held in the right hand.<ref>Rambam (Lulav 7:4), Shulchan Aruch 651:2, Yalkut Yosef 651:2</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#The Etrog is not tied up with the other 3 minim. It is held in the left hand while the others are held in the right hand.<ref>Rambam (Lulav 7:4), Shulchan Aruch 651:2, Yalkut Yosef 651:2</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is proper to bind the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot with a double knot.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to allow using the kashekel's (woven lulav leaf holders) and consider them to be a binding of the 3 minim.<ref>Mishna Brurah 651:8 citing the Agurah BeOhalecha. Bikkurei Yacov 651:8 writes that lulav rings as a binding is the equivalent of using a lulav kashekel. </ref>For Sephardim, it is advised to tie the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot and not just use a holder.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 651:3</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#It is proper to bind the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot with a double knot.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 651:1</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to allow using the kashekel's (woven lulav leaf holders) and consider them to be a binding of the 3 minim.<ref>Mishna Brurah 651:8 citing the Agurah BeOhalecha. Bikkurei Yacov 651:8 writes that lulav rings as a binding is the equivalent of using a lulav kashekel. </ref>For Sephardim, it is advised to tie the Lulav, Hadasim, and Aravot and not just use a holder.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 651:3</ref></div></td></tr> </table>

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<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Which direction should he shake the lulav?</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:15, 29 September 2023</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l68">Line 68:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 68:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>=== Which direction should he shake the lulav? ===</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>=== Which direction should he shake the lulav? ===</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Sephardim and Chasidim shake towards the south, north, east, up, down, west. (If the shul faces east then to your right, left, forward, up, down, backward.)<ref>Chazon Ovadia 352-353 rules like the Arizal against Shulchan Aruch O.C. 651:10 who says to start at east and turn clockwise. </ref> One should turn his body and face the direction to which he is shaking.<ref>Bikkurei Yaakov 651:36 quoting the Ari as well as the Kaf Hachayim 651:96 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Sephardim and Chasidim shake towards the south, north, east, up, down, west. (If the shul faces east then to your right, left, forward, up, down, backward.)<ref>Chazon Ovadia 352-353 rules like the Arizal against Shulchan Aruch O.C. 651:10 who says to start at east and turn clockwise. </ref> One should turn his body and face the direction to which he is shaking.<ref>Bikkurei Yaakov 651:36 quoting the Ari as well as the Kaf Hachayim 651:96 </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Ashkenazim shake east, south, west, north, up, down. Face forward and shake clockwise.<ref>Maharil, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 651:10, Mishna Brurah 651:47. There is a third ordering of directions to shake the lulav that is not common. That is the opinion of Levush that the order is: east, north, west, south, up, down.</ref> You don't have to turn your body to face that direction, you can just shake the [[lulav]] towards that direction while facing forward.<ref>Mishna Brurah 651:37 quoting the Magen Avraham and the Maamar Mordechai. </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Ashkenazim shake east, south, west, north, up, down. Face forward and shake clockwise.<ref>Maharil, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 651:10, Mishna Brurah 651:47. There is a third ordering of directions to shake the lulav that is not common. That is the opinion of Levush <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">651 </ins>that the order is: east, north, west, south, up, down.</ref> You don't have to turn your body to face that direction, you can just shake the [[lulav]] towards that direction while facing forward.<ref>Mishna Brurah 651:37 quoting the Magen Avraham and the Maamar Mordechai. </ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># If someone is in a shul that has a minhag to shake in a certain direction he should follow their practice.<ref>Orchot Rabbenu v. 3 p. 91, Chazon Ovadia Sukkah p. 355. Chazon Ovadia quotes all the reasons that it isn't necessary to have one practice in this case but concludes that it is proper to establish one practice for each community.</ref> Some are lenient and don't consider it [[Lo Titgodedu]].<ref>Piskei Teshuvot 651:13 based on Aruch Hashulchan 651:22</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># If someone is in a shul that has a minhag to shake in a certain direction he should follow their practice.<ref>Orchot Rabbenu v. 3 p. 91, Chazon Ovadia Sukkah p. 355. Chazon Ovadia quotes all the reasons that it isn't necessary to have one practice in this case but concludes that it is proper to establish one practice for each community.</ref> Some are lenient and don't consider it [[Lo Titgodedu]].<ref>Piskei Teshuvot 651:13 based on Aruch Hashulchan 651:22</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> </table>

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