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	# The minhag is to give zecher lmachasit hashekel on Tanit Ester that's Thursday when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat.<ref>Kaf Hachaim 694:25, Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos" by Rabbi Isaac Rice, 5784)</ref>		# The minhag is to give zecher lmachasit hashekel on Tanit Ester that's Thursday when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat.<ref>Kaf Hachaim 694:25, Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos" by Rabbi Isaac Rice, 5784)</ref>
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	== Bringing the Megillah to Shul on Shabbat ==		== Bringing the Megillah to Shul on Shabbat ==

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	# The minhag is to give zecher lmachasit hashekel on Tanit Ester that's Thursday when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat.<ref>Kaf Hachaim 694:25, Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos" by Rabbi Isaac Rice, 5784)</ref>		# The minhag is to give zecher lmachasit hashekel on Tanit Ester that's Thursday when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat.<ref>Kaf Hachaim 694:25, Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos" by Rabbi Isaac Rice, 5784)</ref>
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	== Bringing the Megillah to Shul on Shabbat ==		== Bringing the Megillah to Shul on Shabbat ==

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	== Order of Arvit on Motzei Shabbat ==		== Order of Arvit on Motzei Shabbat ==
			#It is forbidden to read the Megillah after Plag Mincha when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat.<ref>Magen Avraham 692:6</ref>
	#If [[Purim]] falls out on Saturday night then one should read the [[megillah]] and then say VeYehe Noam.<ref>Rama 693:1, Mekor Hachaim 192:1, Natai Gavriel ([[purim\|Purim]] 28:8)</ref>		#If [[Purim]] falls out on Saturday night then one should read the [[megillah]] and then say VeYehe Noam.<ref>Rama 693:1, Mekor Hachaim 192:1, Natai Gavriel ([[purim\|Purim]] 28:8)</ref>
	#If the congregation didn’t yet say [[Kiddush Levana]] then they should say it before hearing the Megilla,<ref>Noda BiYehuda (O.C. 1:41) writes that one should say [[Kiddush Levana]] before the [[Megillah]] because of Tadir VeSheino Tadir. He explains that the Gemara’s principle that Pirsumei Nisa trumps Tadir ([[Megillah]] 3a) applies only if by reading the [[Megillah]] first, one will be able to do Pirsumeh Nisa with a bigger congregation than if one were to do Tadir first. However, if the entire congregation can read the [[Megillah]] after [[Kiddush Levana]], then it is better to say [[Kiddush Levana]] first. Kitzur S”A 97:15 and Nitei Gavriel 49:1 agree.</ref> however, if only individuals didn’t say it they should wait until after hearing Megilla together with the congregation.<ref>Natai Gavriel 49:1, 3</ref>		#If the congregation didn’t yet say [[Kiddush Levana]] then they should say it before hearing the Megilla,<ref>Noda BiYehuda (O.C. 1:41) writes that one should say [[Kiddush Levana]] before the [[Megillah]] because of Tadir VeSheino Tadir. He explains that the Gemara’s principle that Pirsumei Nisa trumps Tadir ([[Megillah]] 3a) applies only if by reading the [[Megillah]] first, one will be able to do Pirsumeh Nisa with a bigger congregation than if one were to do Tadir first. However, if the entire congregation can read the [[Megillah]] after [[Kiddush Levana]], then it is better to say [[Kiddush Levana]] first. Kitzur S”A 97:15 and Nitei Gavriel 49:1 agree.</ref> however, if only individuals didn’t say it they should wait until after hearing Megilla together with the congregation.<ref>Natai Gavriel 49:1, 3</ref>

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Eating before Megillah

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	== Eating before Megillah ==		== Eating before Megillah ==

	# Some poskim hold that it is permitted to eat a snack before the megillah on Motzei Shabbat (after havdalah). The reason is that we're only strict not to even have a snack before megillah after the fast since a person is likely to eat too much, but in this case there's no such concern.<ref>Rav Elyashiv (Shiurei Maran Hagrish Elyashiv Brachot 4b s.v. shemati p. 22). The reason that megillah at night after a fast is more of a concern is spelled out in Eliya Rabba 692:11. </ref> Others disagree and hold that when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat, it has the same status as every other year and it is forbidden to have a snack before megillah except someone who is weak.<ref>Va'ayer Lanu (Rabbi Yisrael Rappaport, p. 123) notes that according to Eliya Rabba 692 there's more of a reason to be reason when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat since the fast isn't right before the megillah. However, according to Eliya Rabba it should also be allowed to have a snack before megillah of the day and Mishna Brurah writes that there's no difference. Therefore, Va'ayer Lanu writes that according to Mishna Brurah it is forbidden to have a snack before megillah of Purim that falls out on Motzei Shabbat.</ref>		# Some poskim hold that it is permitted to eat a snack before the megillah on Motzei Shabbat (after havdalah). The reason is that we're only strict not to even have a snack before megillah after the fast since a person is likely to eat too much, but in this case there's no such concern.<ref>Rav Elyashiv (Shiurei Maran Hagrish Elyashiv Brachot 4b s.v. shemati p. 22). The reason that megillah at night after a fast is more of a concern is spelled out in Eliya Rabba 692:11. </ref> Others disagree and hold that when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat, it has the same status as every other year and it is forbidden to have a snack before megillah except someone who is weak.<ref>Va'ayer Lanu (Rabbi Yisrael Rappaport, p. 123) notes that according to Eliya Rabba 692 there's more of a reason to be reason when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat since the fast isn't right before the megillah. However, according to Eliya Rabba it should also be allowed to have a snack before megillah of the day and Mishna Brurah writes that there's no difference. Therefore, Va'ayer Lanu writes that according to Mishna Brurah it is forbidden to have a snack before megillah of Purim that falls out on Motzei Shabbat. Rabbi Yisrael Harpenes (Mekadesh Yisrael Purim teshuva 67) writes that it is not proper to be lenient to have a snack before Megillah when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat.</ref>
	# Some poskim write that it is forbidden to continue seuda shelishit late in the night past tzet hakochavim when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat.<ref>Rav Nissim Karelitz (Piskei Shemuot p. 113 quoting Rav Yosef Shuv)</ref>		# Some poskim write that it is forbidden to continue seuda shelishit late in the night past tzet hakochavim when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat.<ref>Rav Nissim Karelitz (Piskei Shemuot p. 113 quoting Rav Yosef Shuv)</ref>

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Eating before Megillah

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	== Eating before Megillah ==		== Eating before Megillah ==

	# Some poskim hold that it is permitted to eat a snack before the megillah on Motzei Shabbat (after havdalah). The reason is that we're only strict not to even have a snack before megillah after the fast since a person is likely to eat too much, but in this case there's no such concern.<ref>Rav Elyashiv (Shiurei Maran Hagrish Elyashiv Brachot 4b s.v. shemati p. 22). The reason that megillah at night after a fast is more of a concern is spelled out in Eliya Rabba 692:11. </ref>		# Some poskim hold that it is permitted to eat a snack before the megillah on Motzei Shabbat (after havdalah). The reason is that we're only strict not to even have a snack before megillah after the fast since a person is likely to eat too much, but in this case there's no such concern.<ref>Rav Elyashiv (Shiurei Maran Hagrish Elyashiv Brachot 4b s.v. shemati p. 22). The reason that megillah at night after a fast is more of a concern is spelled out in Eliya Rabba 692:11. </ref> Others disagree and hold that when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat, it has the same status as every other year and it is forbidden to have a snack before megillah except someone who is weak.<ref>Va'ayer Lanu (Rabbi Yisrael Rappaport, p. 123) notes that according to Eliya Rabba 692 there's more of a reason to be reason when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat since the fast isn't right before the megillah. However, according to Eliya Rabba it should also be allowed to have a snack before megillah of the day and Mishna Brurah writes that there's no difference. Therefore, Va'ayer Lanu writes that according to Mishna Brurah it is forbidden to have a snack before megillah of Purim that falls out on Motzei Shabbat.</ref>
	# Some poskim write that it is forbidden to continue seuda shelishit late in the night past tzet hakochavim when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat.<ref>Rav Nissim Karelitz (Piskei Shemuot p. 113 quoting Rav Yosef Shuv)</ref>		# Some poskim write that it is forbidden to continue seuda shelishit late in the night past tzet hakochavim when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat.<ref>Rav Nissim Karelitz (Piskei Shemuot p. 113 quoting Rav Yosef Shuv)</ref>

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	# It is proper to have a small meal in honor of Purim the night of Purim on Motzei Shabbat. Having [[Seudat Shelishit]] isn’t considered as that small meal the night of [[Purim]].<ref>Mishna Brurah 695:3, Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos," Rabbi Isaac Rice 5784)</ref>		# It is proper to have a small meal in honor of Purim the night of Purim on Motzei Shabbat. Having [[Seudat Shelishit]] isn’t considered as that small meal the night of [[Purim]].<ref>Mishna Brurah 695:3, Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos," Rabbi Isaac Rice 5784)</ref>
	# Even if one’s seudat shelishit meal extends into the night one says Retzeh in Birkat Hamazon and doesn’t add Al HaNissim.<ref>Natai Gavriel 28:3</ref> Initially, it is best to avoid this question by not eating a kezayit of bread after nightfall.<ref>Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos," Rabbi Isaac Rice 5784)</ref>		# Even if one’s seudat shelishit meal extends into the night one says Retzeh in Birkat Hamazon and doesn’t add Al HaNissim.<ref>Natai Gavriel 28:3</ref> Initially, it is best to avoid this question by not eating a kezayit of bread after nightfall.<ref>Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos," Rabbi Isaac Rice 5784)</ref>

			== Eating before Megillah ==

			# Some poskim hold that it is permitted to eat a snack before the megillah on Motzei Shabbat (after havdalah). The reason is that we're only strict not to even have a snack before megillah after the fast since a person is likely to eat too much, but in this case there's no such concern.<ref>Rav Elyashiv (Shiurei Maran Hagrish Elyashiv Brachot 4b s.v. shemati p. 22). The reason that megillah at night after a fast is more of a concern is spelled out in Eliya Rabba 692:11. </ref>
			# Some poskim write that it is forbidden to continue seuda shelishit late in the night past tzet hakochavim when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat.<ref>Rav Nissim Karelitz (Piskei Shemuot p. 113 quoting Rav Yosef Shuv)</ref>

	== Order of Arvit on Motzei Shabbat ==		== Order of Arvit on Motzei Shabbat ==

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	== Order of Arvit on Motzei Shabbat ==		== Order of Arvit on Motzei Shabbat ==
	#If [[Purim]] falls out on Saturday night then one should read the [[megillah]] and then say VeYehe Noam. <ref>Rama 693:1, Natai Gavriel ([[purim]] 28:8)</ref>		#If [[Purim]] falls out on Saturday night then one should read the [[megillah]] and then say VeYehe Noam.<ref>Rama 693:1, Mekor Hachaim 192:1, Natai Gavriel ([[purim\|Purim]] 28:8)</ref>
	#If the congregation didn’t yet say [[Kiddush Levana]] then they should say it before hearing the Megilla,<ref>Noda BiYehuda (O.C. 1:41) writes that one should say [[Kiddush Levana]] before the [[Megillah]] because of Tadir VeSheino Tadir. He explains that the Gemara’s principle that Pirsumei Nisa trumps Tadir ([[Megillah]] 3a) applies only if by reading the [[Megillah]] first, one will be able to do Pirsumeh Nisa with a bigger congregation than if one were to do Tadir first. However, if the entire congregation can read the [[Megillah]] after [[Kiddush Levana]], then it is better to say [[Kiddush Levana]] first. Kitzur S”A 97:15 and Nitei Gavriel 49:1 agree.</ref> however, if only individuals didn’t say it they should wait until after hearing Megilla together with the congregation.<ref>Natai Gavriel 49:1, 3</ref>		#If the congregation didn’t yet say [[Kiddush Levana]] then they should say it before hearing the Megilla,<ref>Noda BiYehuda (O.C. 1:41) writes that one should say [[Kiddush Levana]] before the [[Megillah]] because of Tadir VeSheino Tadir. He explains that the Gemara’s principle that Pirsumei Nisa trumps Tadir ([[Megillah]] 3a) applies only if by reading the [[Megillah]] first, one will be able to do Pirsumeh Nisa with a bigger congregation than if one were to do Tadir first. However, if the entire congregation can read the [[Megillah]] after [[Kiddush Levana]], then it is better to say [[Kiddush Levana]] first. Kitzur S”A 97:15 and Nitei Gavriel 49:1 agree.</ref> however, if only individuals didn’t say it they should wait until after hearing Megilla together with the congregation.<ref>Natai Gavriel 49:1, 3</ref>

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	== Havdalah ==		== Havdalah ==

	# The Ashkenazic minhag is to recite [[Havdalah]] after reading the [[Megillah]].<ref>The Kol Bo (45) writes that Rabbeinu Chananeil and the Raavad held that if [[Purim]] falls out on Motza’ei [[Shabbat]], one should recite [[Havdalah]] before the [[Megillah]]. He adds, however, that the minhag of Narvona was to say [[Havdalah]] after the [[Megillah]]. The Sefer Minhagim (Tirna, [[Purim]] s.v. [[Arvit]]) and Rama 693:1 write that the minhag is to say [[Havdalah]] after the [[Megillah]]. The Bei’ur HaGra 693:1 explains that we recite [[Havdalah]] after the [[Megillah]] in order to delay ending [[Shabbat]] as much as possible (see Pesachim 105b). Pri Megadim M”Z 693:1, Mishna Brurah 693:3, Nitei Gavriel 28:8, and Rav Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos" by Rabbi Isaac Rice, 5784) agree.		# The Ashkenazic minhag is to recite [[Havdalah]] after reading the [[Megillah]].<ref>The Kol Bo (45) writes that Rabbeinu Chananeil and the Raavad held that if [[Purim]] falls out on Motza’ei [[Shabbat]], one should recite [[Havdalah]] before the [[Megillah]]. He adds, however, that the minhag of Narvona was to say [[Havdalah]] after the [[Megillah]]. The Sefer Minhagim (Tirna, [[Purim]] s.v. [[Arvit]]) and Rama 693:1 write that the minhag is to say [[Havdalah]] after the [[Megillah]]. The Bei’ur HaGra 693:1 explains that we recite [[Havdalah]] after the [[Megillah]] in order to delay ending [[Shabbat]] as much as possible (see Pesachim 105b). Mekor Hachaim 192:1, Pri Megadim M”Z 693:1, Mishna Brurah 693:3, Nitei Gavriel 28:8, and Rav Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos" by Rabbi Isaac Rice, 5784) agree.
	*Elsewhere, the Kol Bo (41) writes that one should say Borei Me’orei HaEish before the [[Megillah]] so that one does not benefit from candle light while reading the [[Megillah]] before making a Bracha upon it. He mentions that some others argued that the Bracha of Yotzeir HaMe’orot in [[Shacharit]] already exempted them of the obligation to thank Hashem for benefitting from light. The Maharash Halevi (cited by Pri [[Chadash]] 693:1) explains that the second opinion understands the bracha of Borei Me’orei HaEish to be in commemoration (zecher) of the creation of fire on Motza’ei [[Shabbat]] and not a bracha that permits one to benefit from light. Birkei Yosef 693:1 writes that ideally, one should say Borei Me’orei HaEish before the [[Megillah]] and the rest of [[Havdalah]] afterwards. Chazon Ovadia (p. 67) agrees.</ref>		*Elsewhere, the Kol Bo (41) writes that one should say Borei Me’orei HaEish before the [[Megillah]] so that one does not benefit from candle light while reading the [[Megillah]] before making a Bracha upon it. He mentions that some others argued that the Bracha of Yotzeir HaMe’orot in [[Shacharit]] already exempted them of the obligation to thank Hashem for benefitting from light. The Maharash Halevi (cited by Pri [[Chadash]] 693:1) explains that the second opinion understands the bracha of Borei Me’orei HaEish to be in commemoration (zecher) of the creation of fire on Motza’ei [[Shabbat]] and not a bracha that permits one to benefit from light. Birkei Yosef 693:1 writes that ideally, one should say Borei Me’orei HaEish before the [[Megillah]] and the rest of [[Havdalah]] afterwards. Chazon Ovadia (p. 67) agrees.</ref>
	# The Sephardic poskim advise reciting "Borei Me’orei HaEish" before the [[Megillah]] and the rest of the [[Havdalah]] afterwards.<ref>Chazon Ovadia (p. 67)</ref>		# The Sephardic poskim advise reciting "Borei Me’orei HaEish" before the [[Megillah]] and the rest of the [[Havdalah]] afterwards.<ref>Chazon Ovadia (p. 67). Raavad (Tamim Deyim 174) and Ohel Moed (Moed Katan 1:4) write that havdalah should be before megillah so that he doesn't enjoy the light while reading megillah before reciting Borei Meorei Haesh.</ref>

	== Seuda Shelishit and Seudat Purim ==		== Seuda Shelishit and Seudat Purim ==

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	== Bringing the Megillah to Shul on Shabbat ==		== Bringing the Megillah to Shul on Shabbat ==

	# When [[Purim]] falls out on Motzei [[Shabbat]], one may not bring the [[Megillah]] to shul on [[Shabbat]]. Instead it should be brought before Shabbat and left there.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 28:75</ref>		# When [[Purim]] falls out on Motzei [[Shabbat]], one may not bring the [[Megillah]] to shul on [[Shabbat]]. Instead it should be brought before Shabbat and left there.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 28:75</ref> See [[Hachana]] for details.
	# While most poskim say that a [[Megillah]] is not [[Muktzeh]]<ref>The Pri [[Chadash]] 688:6 writes that the [[Megillah]] should be considered [[Muktzeh]] on [[Shabbat]], since there’s a gezeirah not to read the [[Megillah]] on [[Shabbat]] ([[Megillah]] 4b). The Eliyah Rabba 308:10, however, says that the [[Megillah]] is no different than any other sefer, and sefarim are not [[Muktzeh]]. Natai Gavriel 28:4 agrees. The Mateh Yehuda 688:8 writes that even the Pri [[Chadash]] considers it [[Muktzeh]] only if [[Purim]] actually falls out on [[Shabbat]] itself, which, according to our calendar, occurs only for those who celebrate [[Purim]] on the 15th of Adar. Kitzur S”A 141:17 agrees.</ref>, one should not carry it to the shul on [[Shabbat]] in preparation for Motza’ei [[Shabbat]] unless one uses it in shul on [[Shabbat]] itself.<ref>*Rav Yaakov Emden (Mor U’Ketziah 693 s.v. KeSheChal) writes that it certainly is forbidden to bring the [[Megillah]] to shul on [[Shabbat]] in order to read it on Motza’ei [[Shabbat]] due to the prohibition of preparing on [[Shabbat]] for after [[Shabbat]] ([[Hachanah]]). Kitzur S”A 141:17 and Nitei Gavriel 28:4 agree.		# While most poskim say that a [[Megillah]] is not [[Muktzeh]]<ref>The Pri [[Chadash]] 688:6 writes that the [[Megillah]] should be considered [[Muktzeh]] on [[Shabbat]], since there’s a gezeirah not to read the [[Megillah]] on [[Shabbat]] ([[Megillah]] 4b). The Eliyah Rabba 308:10, however, says that the [[Megillah]] is no different than any other sefer, and sefarim are not [[Muktzeh]]. Natai Gavriel 28:4 agrees. The Mateh Yehuda 688:8 writes that even the Pri [[Chadash]] considers it [[Muktzeh]] only if [[Purim]] actually falls out on [[Shabbat]] itself, which, according to our calendar, occurs only for those who celebrate [[Purim]] on the 15th of Adar. Kitzur S”A 141:17 agrees.</ref>, one should not carry it to the shul on [[Shabbat]] in preparation for Motza’ei [[Shabbat]] unless one uses it in shul on [[Shabbat]] itself.<ref>*Rav Yaakov Emden (Mor U’Ketziah 693 s.v. KeSheChal) writes that it certainly is forbidden to bring the [[Megillah]] to shul on [[Shabbat]] in order to read it on Motza’ei [[Shabbat]] due to the prohibition of preparing on [[Shabbat]] for after [[Shabbat]] ([[Hachanah]]). Kitzur S”A 141:17 and Nitei Gavriel 28:4 agree.
	*The Chayei Adam (155:10), however, writes that while it is proper not to bring the [[Megillah]] to shul on [[Shabbat]], strictly speaking it is similar to bringing wine for [[Havdalah]], regarding which the Chayei Adam writes (153:6) that if it is absolutely necessary, one may bring wine for [[Havdalah]] if he does so in a way that it does not appear as though one is [[preparing for after Shabbat]]. Specifically, he should bring the wine early enough that he theoretically could use it on [[Shabbat]] and should carry it in some abnormal way. Mishna Brurah (667:5) agrees.		*The Chayei Adam (155:10), however, writes that while it is proper not to bring the [[Megillah]] to shul on [[Shabbat]], strictly speaking it is similar to bringing wine for [[Havdalah]], regarding which the Chayei Adam writes (153:6) that if it is absolutely necessary, one may bring wine for [[Havdalah]] if he does so in a way that it does not appear as though one is [[preparing for after Shabbat]]. Specifically, he should bring the wine early enough that he theoretically could use it on [[Shabbat]] and should carry it in some abnormal way. Mishna Brurah (667:5) agrees.
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	== Seuda Shelishit and Seudat Purim ==		== Seuda Shelishit and Seudat Purim ==

	# ~~If [[~~Purim~~]] falls out~~ on Motzei Shabbat ~~and Sunday, having~~ [[Seudat Shelishit]] isn’t considered as ~~having a~~ small meal ~~during~~ the night ~~of [[Purim]]. Rather, one should have a special meal for the sake~~ of [[Purim]].<ref>Mishna Brurah 695:3</ref>		# It is proper to have a small meal in honor of Purim the night of Purim on Motzei Shabbat. Having [[Seudat Shelishit]] isn’t considered as that small meal the night of [[Purim]].<ref>Mishna Brurah 695:3, Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos," Rabbi Isaac Rice 5784)</ref>
	# Even if one’s seudat shelishit meal extends into the night one says Retzeh in Birkat Hamazon and doesn’t add Al HaNissim.<ref>Natai Gavriel 28:3</ref> Initially, it is best to avoid this question by not eating a kezayit of bread after nightfall.<ref>Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos," Rabbi Isaac Rice 5784)</ref>		# Even if one’s seudat shelishit meal extends into the night one says Retzeh in Birkat Hamazon and doesn’t add Al HaNissim.<ref>Natai Gavriel 28:3</ref> Initially, it is best to avoid this question by not eating a kezayit of bread after nightfall.<ref>Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos," Rabbi Isaac Rice 5784)</ref>

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	#If [[Purim]] falls out on Saturday night then one should read the [[megillah]] and then say VeYehe Noam. <ref>Rama 693:1, Natai Gavriel ([[purim]] 28:8)</ref>		#If [[Purim]] falls out on Saturday night then one should read the [[megillah]] and then say VeYehe Noam. <ref>Rama 693:1, Natai Gavriel ([[purim]] 28:8)</ref>
	#If the congregation didn’t yet say [[Kiddush Levana]] then they should say it before hearing the Megilla,<ref>Noda BiYehuda (O.C. 1:41) writes that one should say [[Kiddush Levana]] before the [[Megillah]] because of Tadir VeSheino Tadir. He explains that the Gemara’s principle that Pirsumei Nisa trumps Tadir ([[Megillah]] 3a) applies only if by reading the [[Megillah]] first, one will be able to do Pirsumeh Nisa with a bigger congregation than if one were to do Tadir first. However, if the entire congregation can read the [[Megillah]] after [[Kiddush Levana]], then it is better to say [[Kiddush Levana]] first. Kitzur S”A 97:15 and Nitei Gavriel 49:1 agree.</ref> however, if only individuals didn’t say it they should wait until after hearing Megilla together with the congregation.<ref>Natai Gavriel 49:1, 3</ref>		#If the congregation didn’t yet say [[Kiddush Levana]] then they should say it before hearing the Megilla,<ref>Noda BiYehuda (O.C. 1:41) writes that one should say [[Kiddush Levana]] before the [[Megillah]] because of Tadir VeSheino Tadir. He explains that the Gemara’s principle that Pirsumei Nisa trumps Tadir ([[Megillah]] 3a) applies only if by reading the [[Megillah]] first, one will be able to do Pirsumeh Nisa with a bigger congregation than if one were to do Tadir first. However, if the entire congregation can read the [[Megillah]] after [[Kiddush Levana]], then it is better to say [[Kiddush Levana]] first. Kitzur S”A 97:15 and Nitei Gavriel 49:1 agree.</ref> however, if only individuals didn’t say it they should wait until after hearing Megilla together with the congregation.<ref>Natai Gavriel 49:1, 3</ref>

			== Purim Customes ==

			# A person should not change into Purim customs on Shabbat for Purim on Motzei Shabbat.<ref>Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos," Rabbi Isaac Rice 5784)</ref>

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== Zecher Lmachasit Hashekel ==

# The minhag is to give zecher lmachasit hashekel on Tanit Ester that's Thursday when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat.<ref>Kaf Hachaim 694:25, Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos" by Rabbi Isaac Rice, 5784)</ref>

== Bringing the Megillah to Shul on Shabbat ==

# When [[Purim]] falls out on Motzei [[Shabbat]], one may not bring the [[Megillah]] to shul on [[Shabbat]]. Instead it should be brought before Shabbat and left there.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 28:75</ref>
# While most poskim say that a [[Megillah]] is not [[Muktzeh]]<ref>The Pri [[Chadash]] 688:6 writes that the [[Megillah]] should be considered [[Muktzeh]] on [[Shabbat]], since there’s a gezeirah not to read the [[Megillah]] on [[Shabbat]] ([[Megillah]] 4b). The Eliyah Rabba 308:10, however, says that the [[Megillah]] is no different than any other sefer, and sefarim are not [[Muktzeh]]. Natai Gavriel 28:4 agrees. The Mateh Yehuda 688:8 writes that even the Pri [[Chadash]] considers it [[Muktzeh]] only if [[Purim]] actually falls out on [[Shabbat]] itself, which, according to our calendar, occurs only for those who celebrate [[Purim]] on the 15th of Adar. Kitzur S”A 141:17 agrees.</ref>, one should not carry it to the shul on [[Shabbat]] in preparation for Motza’ei [[Shabbat]] unless one uses it in shul on [[Shabbat]] itself.<ref>*Rav Yaakov Emden (Mor U’Ketziah 693 s.v. KeSheChal) writes that it certainly is forbidden to bring the [[Megillah]] to shul on [[Shabbat]] in order to read it on Motza’ei [[Shabbat]] due to the prohibition of preparing on [[Shabbat]] for after [[Shabbat]] ([[Hachanah]]). Kitzur S”A 141:17 and Nitei Gavriel 28:4 agree.
*The Chayei Adam (155:10), however, writes that while it is proper not to bring the [[Megillah]] to shul on [[Shabbat]], strictly speaking it is similar to bringing wine for [[Havdalah]], regarding which the Chayei Adam writes (153:6) that if it is absolutely necessary, one may bring wine for [[Havdalah]] if he does so in a way that it does not appear as though one is [[preparing for after Shabbat]]. Specifically, he should bring the wine early enough that he theoretically could use it on [[Shabbat]] and should carry it in some abnormal way. Mishna Brurah (667:5) agrees.
*The Chayei Adam explains that [[Hachanah]] is violated only if one finished an entire activity but not if one merely is transporting an object that is going to be used later. He bolsters this assertion based on the Magen Avraham (667:3), who says that although one may not set up tables on the 8th day of [[Sukkot]] in Chutz LaAretz for [[Shemini Atzeret]] because of [[Hachanah]], it is permitted to bring tables in from the [[Sukkah]] on the 8th day of [[Sukkot]]. Rav Mordechai Willig (Am Mordechai [[Shabbat]] p. 177-9) rejects the Chayei Adam’s proof by explaining that the Magen Avraham permitted bringing the tables inside because there was a current need to bring in the tables so that people don’t linger in the [[Sukkah]] and appear as if they are adding onto [[Sukkot]].
*Shaarei Teshuva 693:1 writes that one may carry the [[Megillah]] to shul privately on [[Shabbat]] if he then uses it on [[Shabbat]]. Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 28:83 agrees.
*Rav Hershel Schachter (Eretz HaTzvi p. 57) writes that while Melachot D’rabanan are forbidden during [[Tosefet Shabbat]], Gezeirot D’rabanan are not. Thus, preparing the wine for [[Havdalah]] after Tzeit HaKochavim (during [[Tosefet Shabbat]]) should be permitted. Chazon Ovadia (p. 107) is lenient even during [[Bein HaShemashot]] if it is necessary.</ref>If one needs to bring the [[Megillah]] to the shul after [[Shabbat]] one should say "Baruch HaMavdil Ben Kodesh LeChol".<ref>Natai Gavriel 28:7</ref>

== Havdalah ==

# The Ashkenazic minhag is to recite [[Havdalah]] after reading the [[Megillah]].<ref>The Kol Bo (45) writes that Rabbeinu Chananeil and the Raavad held that if [[Purim]] falls out on Motza’ei [[Shabbat]], one should recite [[Havdalah]] before the [[Megillah]]. He adds, however, that the minhag of Narvona was to say [[Havdalah]] after the [[Megillah]]. The Sefer Minhagim (Tirna, [[Purim]] s.v. [[Arvit]]) and Rama 693:1 write that the minhag is to say [[Havdalah]] after the [[Megillah]]. The Bei’ur HaGra 693:1 explains that we recite [[Havdalah]] after the [[Megillah]] in order to delay ending [[Shabbat]] as much as possible (see Pesachim 105b). Pri Megadim M”Z 693:1, Mishna Brurah 693:3, Nitei Gavriel 28:8, and Rav Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos" by Rabbi Isaac Rice, 5784) agree.
*Elsewhere, the Kol Bo (41) writes that one should say Borei Me’orei HaEish before the [[Megillah]] so that one does not benefit from candle light while reading the [[Megillah]] before making a Bracha upon it. He mentions that some others argued that the Bracha of Yotzeir HaMe’orot in [[Shacharit]] already exempted them of the obligation to thank Hashem for benefitting from light. The Maharash Halevi (cited by Pri [[Chadash]] 693:1) explains that the second opinion understands the bracha of Borei Me’orei HaEish to be in commemoration (zecher) of the creation of fire on Motza’ei [[Shabbat]] and not a bracha that permits one to benefit from light. Birkei Yosef 693:1 writes that ideally, one should say Borei Me’orei HaEish before the [[Megillah]] and the rest of [[Havdalah]] afterwards. Chazon Ovadia (p. 67) agrees.</ref>
# The Sephardic poskim advise reciting "Borei Me’orei HaEish" before the [[Megillah]] and the rest of the [[Havdalah]] afterwards.<ref>Chazon Ovadia (p. 67)</ref>

== Seuda Shelishit and Seudat Purim ==

# If [[Purim]] falls out on Motzei Shabbat and Sunday, having [[Seudat Shelishit]] isn’t considered as having a small meal during the night of [[Purim]]. Rather, one should have a special meal for the sake of [[Purim]].<ref>Mishna Brurah 695:3</ref>
# Even if one’s seudat shelishit meal extends into the night one says Retzeh in Birkat Hamazon and doesn’t add Al HaNissim.<ref>Natai Gavriel 28:3</ref> Initially, it is best to avoid this question by not eating a kezayit of bread after nightfall.<ref>Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos," Rabbi Isaac Rice 5784)</ref>

== Order of Arvit on Motzei Shabbat ==
#If [[Purim]] falls out on Saturday night then one should read the [[megillah]] and then say VeYehe Noam. <ref>Rama 693:1, Natai Gavriel ([[purim]] 28:8)</ref>
#If the congregation didn’t yet say [[Kiddush Levana]] then they should say it before hearing the Megilla,<ref>Noda BiYehuda (O.C. 1:41) writes that one should say [[Kiddush Levana]] before the [[Megillah]] because of Tadir VeSheino Tadir. He explains that the Gemara’s principle that Pirsumei Nisa trumps Tadir ([[Megillah]] 3a) applies only if by reading the [[Megillah]] first, one will be able to do Pirsumeh Nisa with a bigger congregation than if one were to do Tadir first. However, if the entire congregation can read the [[Megillah]] after [[Kiddush Levana]], then it is better to say [[Kiddush Levana]] first. Kitzur S”A 97:15 and Nitei Gavriel 49:1 agree.</ref> however, if only individuals didn’t say it they should wait until after hearing Megilla together with the congregation.<ref>Natai Gavriel 49:1, 3</ref>

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