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Added Ben Ish Chai shita, re-order based on timeline (Rav Netronai Gaon came first), rename from obligation->application

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	"דבר אל בני ישראל ואמרת אלהם ועשו להם ציצת על כנפי בגדיהם לדרתם ונתנו על ציצת הכנף פתיל תכלת"		"דבר אל בני ישראל ואמרת אלהם ועשו להם ציצת על כנפי בגדיהם לדרתם ונתנו על ציצת הכנף פתיל תכלת"

	==Debate of ~~Requirement~~ Nowadays==		==Debate of Application Nowadays==

	*The Mishna (Menachot 38a) writes that wearing [[Tzitzit]] without Techelet also fulfills the mitzvah of [[Tzitzit]] (while lacking a part of the mitzvah).<ref>Rashi on this mishna interprets this differently. When the mishna describes that the lack of white doesn't invalidate blue or vice versa, Rashi says this means that the number of techelet and white strings must be equal.</ref> This is codified in the Rambam ([[Tzitzit]] 1:3).		*The Mishna (Menachot 38a) writes that wearing [[Tzitzit]] without Techelet also fulfills the mitzvah of [[Tzitzit]] (while lacking a part of the mitzvah).<ref>Rashi on this mishna interprets this differently. When the mishna describes that the lack of white doesn't invalidate blue or vice versa, Rashi says this means that the number of techelet and white strings must be equal.</ref> This is codified in the Rambam ([[Tzitzit]] 1:3).
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	==Tying Methodology==		==Tying Methodology==
	There are several methods of tying tzitzit with techelet.		There are several methods of tying tzitzit with techelet. We will list the more popular methods below:

			* '''Raavad / Rav Natronai Gaon''': The Raavad quotes Rav Natronai Gaon and holds that there should be 4 links and that each link has 7 winds. Each link is separated by a knot. The winds of each link should alternate white and techelet, the first and last wind of each link being white. The Raavad dictates that the link closest to the edge of the garment and the two links farthest from the garment must follow the alternating pattern. However, the unmentioned link can either be all white or the alternating white and techelet pattern.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Hasagot_HaRaavad_on_Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes.1.7.1?lang=bi Raavad on Rambam Halachot Tzitzit 1:7]</ref> [https://www.tekhelet.com/tying/raavad/ Diagrams]

	*'''Rav Amram Gaon''': Rav Amram Gaon says that there shall be at least 7 links that each have 3 winds. After tying a knot closest to the garment, the first link should be white. Every link after should alternate in color. One can extend the pattern to 13 links if desired. There is also a knot at the end.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=64815&pgnum=336 Goanika, v. 2 p. 331]. It is clear that Rav Amram Goan writes that there is a knot at the beginning and the end. He doesn't note that it must be a double knot, so [https://www.tekhelet.com/tekhelet-tying-tools/tying-tzitzit/ Ptil Techelet] writes that it is a single knot with the winding string. This single knot is obscured in the picture because it is covered over by the windings.</ref> [https://www.tekhelet.com/tying/rav-amram-gaon/ Diagrams]		*'''Rav Amram Gaon''': Rav Amram Gaon says that there shall be at least 7 links that each have 3 winds. After tying a knot closest to the garment, the first link should be white. Every link after should alternate in color. One can extend the pattern to 13 links if desired. There is also a knot at the end.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=64815&pgnum=336 Goanika, v. 2 p. 331]. It is clear that Rav Amram Goan writes that there is a knot at the beginning and the end. He doesn't note that it must be a double knot, so [https://www.tekhelet.com/tekhelet-tying-tools/tying-tzitzit/ Ptil Techelet] writes that it is a single knot with the winding string. This single knot is obscured in the picture because it is covered over by the windings.</ref> [https://www.tekhelet.com/tying/rav-amram-gaon/ Diagrams]
			*'''Rambam''': The Rambam maintains that there should be between 7-13 links (chulyot) and that each link should have 3 winds (krichot). In the closest link to the garment, the first wind should be white, while the other two winds of that link should be techelet. In the farthest link from the garment, the final wind should be white, while the other two winds of that link should be techelet. All other links contain only techelet.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes.1?lang=bi Rambam, Halachot Tzitzit Chapter 1]</ref> [https://www.tekhelet.com/tying/rambam/ Diagrams]

	*'''~~Raavad / Rav Natronai Gaon~~''': The ~~Raavad quotes Rav Natronai Gaon and holds~~ that there should be 4 links ~~and that each link has 7 winds~~. Each ~~link~~ is ~~separated~~ by a knot. The winds of each link should alternate white and techelet, the first and last wind of each link being white. The Raavad dictates that the link closest to the edge of the garment and the two links farthest from the garment must follow the alternating pattern. However, the unmentioned link can either be all white or the alternating white and techelet pattern.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/~~Hasagot_HaRaavad_on_Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes~~.1.~~7.1~~?lang=bi ~~Raavad on Rambam Halachot Tzitzit 1:7~~]</ref> [https://www.tekhelet.com/tying/~~raavad~~/ Diagrams]		*'''Sefer Hachinuch''': The Sefer Hachinuch writes that there should be 13 links broken up by 5 double knots. The first 3 sections have 3 links, while the fourth has 4 links. Each section is broken up by a double knot.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Sefer_HaChinukh.386.5?lang=bi Sefer Hachinuch Mitzvah 386]</ref> [https://www.tekhelet.com/tying/chinuch-2/ Diagrams]<ref>Note, the diagram interprets Chinuch as holding that each link should be three winds, which is not clear. Also, it interprets that the links should alternate colors, beginning and ending with white, which is also unclear from the Chinuch.</ref>

	*'''Tosafot''': Baalei Tosafot holds that one should use 7 links of 3 winds each, with 5 total knots separating them. Between the first and second knot, second and third knot, and third and fourth knot, there should be one link of white followed by one link of techelet. Between the fourth and fifth knot, one link of white should be used.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Tosafot_on_Menachot.39a.10.1?lang=bi Tosafot on Menachot 39a]</ref> [https://www.tekhelet.com/tying/baalei-tosafot-raavad-7/ Diagrams]<ref>[https://www.ykr.org.il/question/19225 Rav Yonatan Mazuz] writes that one should tie the techelet like one ties the white strings, with sections of 7, 8, 11, and 13 windings and knots in between. The only difference is that the first and last winding should be white and everything else techelet.</ref>		*'''Tosafot''': Baalei Tosafot holds that one should use 7 links of 3 winds each, with 5 total knots separating them. Between the first and second knot, second and third knot, and third and fourth knot, there should be one link of white followed by one link of techelet. Between the fourth and fifth knot, one link of white should be used.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Tosafot_on_Menachot.39a.10.1?lang=bi Tosafot on Menachot 39a]</ref> [https://www.tekhelet.com/tying/baalei-tosafot-raavad-7/ Diagrams]<ref>[https://www.ykr.org.il/question/19225 Rav Yonatan Mazuz] writes that one should tie the techelet like one ties the white strings, with sections of 7, 8, 11, and 13 windings and knots in between. The only difference is that the first and last winding should be white and everything else techelet.</ref>
			*'''Ben Ish Chai''': Based on the Arizal, the Ben Ish Chai (Lech Lecha) rules that there should be 4 links, broken up into 7, 8, 11 & 13 winds separated by double knots. When joined together with the double knots on the beginning and end of the tie, one satisfies the five-knots requirement of the Midrash. Within these winds, one should make smaller links of 3 winds each, separated by a space between. The first and last wind of the tie should be white.<ref>[https://bluefringes.com/textual_sources/ben-ish-hai-lech-lecha/ Ben Ish Hai - Lech Lecha]</ref>[https://www.tekhelet.com/tying/ben-ish-chai/ Diagrams]
	*'''~~Rambam~~''': ~~The Rambam maintains~~ that there should be ~~between~~ 7-13 ~~links (chulyot) and that each link should have 3~~ winds ~~(krichot)~~. In the ~~closest link to~~ the ~~garment,~~ the ~~first wind should be white~~, ~~while~~ the ~~other two winds~~ of ~~that link should be techelet~~. ~~In the farthest link from the garment~~, ~~the final wind~~ should ~~be white~~, ~~while~~ the ~~other two winds of that link~~ should be ~~techelet. All other links contain only techelet.<ref>[https://www~~.~~sefaria.org/Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes.1?lang=bi Rambam, Halachot Tzitzit Chapter 1]~~</ref> [https://~~www.tekhelet~~.com/~~tying~~/~~rambam~~/ ~~Diagrams]~~

	*'''Sefer Hachinuch''': The Sefer Hachinuch writes that there should be 13 links broken up by 5 double knots. The first 3 sections have 3 links, while the fourth has 4 links. Each section is broken up by a double knot.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Sefer_HaChinukh.386.5?lang=bi Sefer Hachinuch Mitzvah 386]</ref> [https://www.tekhelet.com/tying/~~chinuch~~-2/ Diagrams]<ref>Note, the diagram interprets Chinuch as holding that each link should be three winds, which is not clear. Also, it interprets that the links should alternate colors, beginning and ending with white, which is also unclear from the Chinuch.</ref>

	*'''Rav Hershel Schachter''': There is an argument among Rishonim what the gemara means when it says we need between "7 and 13" for the tzitzit. Some say it refers to the number of links (chulyot) and others say number of winds (krichot). Rav Schachter incorporates each understanding by having 7 links of 7 winds each. Each link is separated by a double knot. the first three winds of the first link are white, and the last three winds of the last link are white (to satisfy Tosafot). All other winds are techelet (to satisfy Rambam).<ref>[https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/857819/rabbi-hershel-schachter/details-regarding-the-tying-of-tekhelet/ YUTorah.org, Rav Hershel Schachter, "Details regarding the tying of Tekhelet"]</ref> [https://www.mywesternwall.net/2019/04/02/techeiles-how-to-tie-tzitzis-like-r-hershel-schachters-method.html How to tie]. [https://www.tekhelet.com/diagrams/Schachter7TyingDiagram2.pdf Diagram]		*'''Rav Hershel Schachter''': There is an argument among Rishonim what the gemara means when it says we need between "7 and 13" for the tzitzit. Some say it refers to the number of links (chulyot) and others say number of winds (krichot). Rav Schachter incorporates each understanding by having 7 links of 7 winds each. Each link is separated by a double knot. the first three winds of the first link are white, and the last three winds of the last link are white (to satisfy Tosafot). All other winds are techelet (to satisfy Rambam).<ref>[https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/857819/rabbi-hershel-schachter/details-regarding-the-tying-of-tekhelet/ YUTorah.org, Rav Hershel Schachter, "Details regarding the tying of Tekhelet"]</ref> [https://www.mywesternwall.net/2019/04/02/techeiles-how-to-tie-tzitzis-like-r-hershel-schachters-method.html How to tie]. [https://www.tekhelet.com/diagrams/Schachter7TyingDiagram2.pdf Diagram]

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If the Strings Ripped

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	*If all white tzitzit, [[Tzitzit#If_the_Strings_Ripped\| click here]].		*If all white tzitzit, [[Tzitzit#If_the_Strings_Ripped\| click here]].
	*According to the Rambam, if all white strings tore off up to the corner of the garment, and all that was left were techelet strings, the garment is still fit for use. <ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes.1.4?lang=bi Rambam, Hilchot Tzitzit 1:4]. He explains that this is due to the mishna on Menachot 38a saying that the absence of white does not invalidate blue and the absence of blue does not invalidate white.</ref>		*According to the Rambam, if all white strings tore off up to the corner of the garment, and all that was left were techelet strings, the garment is still fit for use.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes.1.4?lang=bi Rambam, Hilchot Tzitzit 1:4]. He explains that this is due to the mishna on Menachot 38a saying that the absence of white does not invalidate blue and the absence of blue does not invalidate white.</ref>

	==Sources==		==Sources==
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Number of Techelet Strings

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	*'''Rambam''' holds that '''one''' string out of eight are techelet.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes.1.6/ Rambam Halachot Tzitzit 1:6]</ref> Maggid Meisharim, Mabit, Maharam Ibn Gabay, Sefer Charedim, Levush, Gra,<ref>Ptil Tekhelet 6:15-16 based on the Gra's commentary to Zohar Pinchas 228, Sifra Ditzineuta Trumah 179b end of ch. 5, Raya Mehemna Shlach 175, and Biur Hagra O.C. 12:5.</ref> Sefer Hakaneh, and Arizal agree with the Rambam. Radziner in Petil Techelet ch. 6 ends up following the Rambam but says one has what to rely upon to follow either of the other opinions. Ben Ish Chai (Noach n. 17) and in [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41237&st=&pgnum=101 Od Yosef Chay (Vaera n. 3)] holds like the Rambam. [https://www.ykr.org.il/question/10327 Rav Meir Mazuz] and [https://www.ykr.org.il/question/1629 Rav Yonatan Mazuz] agree.		*'''Rambam''' holds that '''one''' string out of eight are techelet.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes.1.6/ Rambam Halachot Tzitzit 1:6]</ref> Maggid Meisharim, Mabit, Maharam Ibn Gabay, Sefer Charedim, Levush, Gra,<ref>Ptil Tekhelet 6:15-16 based on the Gra's commentary to Zohar Pinchas 228, Sifra Ditzineuta Trumah 179b end of ch. 5, Raya Mehemna Shlach 175, and Biur Hagra O.C. 12:5.</ref> Sefer Hakaneh, and Arizal agree with the Rambam. Radziner in Petil Techelet ch. 6 ends up following the Rambam but says one has what to rely upon to follow either of the other opinions. Ben Ish Chai (Noach n. 17) and in [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41237&st=&pgnum=101 Od Yosef Chay (Vaera n. 3)] holds like the Rambam. [https://www.ykr.org.il/question/10327 Rav Meir Mazuz] and [https://www.ykr.org.il/question/1629 Rav Yonatan Mazuz] agree.
	*'''Raavad''' holds that two out of the eight strings are techelet.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Hasagot_HaRaavad_on_Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes.1.6.1/ Raavad on Rambam Halachot Tzitzit 1:6]</ref> Sefer Hachinuch<ref>Sefer Hachinuch 386 writes that the techelet string (singular) needs to be died lishma. This implies that he holds like Raavad that one out of the four strings is techelet. Also he writes that you wrap the techelet string (singular) upon the others. He certainly seems not to hold like Rashi and Tosfot. Also, he seems to hold like Raavad since he does not specify that only half of one of the strings is techelet, like Rambam. </ref> and Aruch<ref>Erech Techelet</ref> agree with the Raavad. Smag has safek like Tosfot or Raavad. Some achronim hold like the Raavad.<ref>Birurei Halacha Bmitzvat Techelet Shebetzitzit p. 63 n. 106 learns from the Rambam Tzitzit 1:5 that even if one uses more strings of techelet than are necessary one fulfills the mitzvah. p. 72 n. 117 he concludes to follow the Raavad since it is the opinion of many rishonim and the Rambam would agree. </ref>		*'''Raavad''' holds that '''two''' out of the eight strings are techelet.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Hasagot_HaRaavad_on_Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes.1.6.1/ Raavad on Rambam Halachot Tzitzit 1:6]</ref> Sefer Hachinuch<ref>Sefer Hachinuch 386 writes that the techelet string (singular) needs to be died lishma. This implies that he holds like Raavad that one out of the four strings is techelet. Also he writes that you wrap the techelet string (singular) upon the others. He certainly seems not to hold like Rashi and Tosfot. Also, he seems to hold like Raavad since he does not specify that only half of one of the strings is techelet, like Rambam. </ref> and Aruch<ref>Erech Techelet</ref> agree with the Raavad. Smag has safek like Tosfot or Raavad. Some achronim hold like the Raavad.<ref>Birurei Halacha Bmitzvat Techelet Shebetzitzit p. 63 n. 106 learns from the Rambam Tzitzit 1:5 that even if one uses more strings of techelet than are necessary one fulfills the mitzvah. p. 72 n. 117 he concludes to follow the Raavad since it is the opinion of many rishonim and the Rambam would agree. </ref>
	*'''Rashi''' and '''Tosfot''' hold that '''four''' strings out of eight are techelet.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Rashi_on_Menachot.38a.4.1 Rashi on Mishna of Menachot 38a]. Rosh Hilchot Tzitzit n. 6 seems to agree.</ref> [https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/788501/rabbi-hershel-schachter/hilchos-tzitzis/ Rav Schachter] <ref>Rav Schachter [https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/788501/rabbi-hershel-schachter/hilchos-tzitzis/ (YUTorah "Hilchos Tzitzis," at the beginning)]</ref> holds like Rashi and Tosfot and recommends all Ashkenazim to follow this method due to the plethora of sources advocating it (Baal haIttur, Tur, Shulchan Aruch, etc.).		*'''Rashi''' and '''Tosfot''' hold that '''four''' strings out of eight are techelet.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Rashi_on_Menachot.38a.4.1 Rashi on Mishna of Menachot 38a]. Rosh Hilchot Tzitzit n. 6 seems to agree.</ref> [https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/788501/rabbi-hershel-schachter/hilchos-tzitzis/ Rav Schachter] <ref>Rav Schachter [https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/788501/rabbi-hershel-schachter/hilchos-tzitzis/ (YUTorah "Hilchos Tzitzis," at the beginning)]</ref> holds like Rashi and Tosfot and recommends all Ashkenazim to follow this method due to the plethora of sources advocating it (Baal haIttur, Tur, Shulchan Aruch, etc.).

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	There are several methods of tying tzitzit with techelet.		There are several methods of tying tzitzit with techelet.

	*'''Rav Amram Gaon''': Rav Amram Gaon says that there shall be at least 7 links that each have 3 winds. After tying a knot closest to the garment, the first link should be white. Every link after should alternate in color. One can extend the pattern to 13 links if desired.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=64815&pgnum=336 Goanika, v. 2 p. 331]</ref> [https://www.tekhelet.com/tying/rav-amram-gaon/ Diagrams]		*'''Rav Amram Gaon''': Rav Amram Gaon says that there shall be at least 7 links that each have 3 winds. After tying a knot closest to the garment, the first link should be white. Every link after should alternate in color. One can extend the pattern to 13 links if desired. There is also a knot at the end.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=64815&pgnum=336 Goanika, v. 2 p. 331]. It is clear that Rav Amram Goan writes that there is a knot at the beginning and the end. He doesn't note that it must be a double knot, so [https://www.tekhelet.com/tekhelet-tying-tools/tying-tzitzit/ Ptil Techelet] writes that it is a single knot with the winding string. This single knot is obscured in the picture because it is covered over by the windings.</ref> [https://www.tekhelet.com/tying/rav-amram-gaon/ Diagrams]

	*'''Raavad / Rav Natronai Gaon''': The Raavad quotes Rav Natronai Gaon and holds that there should be 4 links and that each link has 7 winds. Each link is separated by a knot. The winds of each link should alternate white and techelet, the first and last wind of each link being white. The Raavad dictates that the link closest to the edge of the garment and the two links farthest from the garment must follow the alternating pattern. However, the unmentioned link can either be all white or the alternating white and techelet pattern.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Hasagot_HaRaavad_on_Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes.1.7.1?lang=bi Raavad on Rambam Halachot Tzitzit 1:7]</ref> [https://www.tekhelet.com/tying/raavad/ Diagrams]		*'''Raavad / Rav Natronai Gaon''': The Raavad quotes Rav Natronai Gaon and holds that there should be 4 links and that each link has 7 winds. Each link is separated by a knot. The winds of each link should alternate white and techelet, the first and last wind of each link being white. The Raavad dictates that the link closest to the edge of the garment and the two links farthest from the garment must follow the alternating pattern. However, the unmentioned link can either be all white or the alternating white and techelet pattern.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Hasagot_HaRaavad_on_Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes.1.7.1?lang=bi Raavad on Rambam Halachot Tzitzit 1:7]</ref> [https://www.tekhelet.com/tying/raavad/ Diagrams]

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Number of Knots

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	# Rava states that after each chuliya (group of at least 3 windings) it is necessary to have a knot.<ref>Menachot 38b</ref> It is accepted and codified by the rishonim and poskim.<ref>The statement of Rava is codified as the halacha by Tosfot (Menachot 39a s.v. lo), Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Mordechai (Menachot 38b s.v. amar rava), Eshkol (Hilchot Tzitzit 79a), Baal Haitur (Hilchot Tzitzit 68c), Rabbenu Yerucham (19:3, 169b), Bet Yosef 11:14, Prisha 11:21. Tosfot and Rosh write that nowadays we're not careful about following Rava since we don't have techelet. But they clearly imply for someone trying to tie tzitzit with techelet they should follow Rava. </ref> Even though Rambam doesn't quote this statement, Rav Yosef Karo, author of Shulchan Aruch, writes that he agrees to it.<ref>Bet Yosef 11:14</ref> Other poskim<ref>Gra 11:14, Malbim ([https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=7774&st=&pgnum=131 Artzot Hachaim 11:82]), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8016&st=&pgnum=45 Shulchan Gavoha 11:30], [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21714&st=&pgnum=17 Olat Yitzchak 1:4:1]. However, the [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41254&st=&pgnum=115 Radziner Rebbe (Ptil Techelet p. 116)] argues that Rambam does not hold like Rava since he left his statement out of the halacha.</ref> agree. This approach is also supported by the Rambam's own words in a letter<ref>Teshuvat Harambam (Blau edition 138)</ref> and that of his son, Rav Avraham ben Harambam.<ref>Halacha section of Hamaspik Lovdei Hashe (v. 2 p. 272 Dana edition, cited by Vehaya Lachem Ltzitzit v. 7 p. 28)</ref>		# Rava states that after each chuliya (group of at least 3 windings) it is necessary to have a knot.<ref>Menachot 38b</ref> It is accepted and codified by the rishonim and poskim.<ref>The statement of Rava is codified as the halacha by Tosfot (Menachot 39a s.v. lo), Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Mordechai (Menachot 38b s.v. amar rava), Eshkol (Hilchot Tzitzit 79a), Baal Haitur (Hilchot Tzitzit 68c), Rabbenu Yerucham (19:3, 169b), Bet Yosef 11:14, Prisha 11:21. Tosfot and Rosh write that nowadays we're not careful about following Rava since we don't have techelet. But they clearly imply for someone trying to tie tzitzit with techelet they should follow Rava. </ref> Even though Rambam doesn't quote this statement, Rav Yosef Karo, author of Shulchan Aruch, writes that he agrees to it.<ref>Bet Yosef 11:14</ref> Other poskim<ref>Gra 11:14, Malbim ([https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=7774&st=&pgnum=131 Artzot Hachaim 11:82]), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8016&st=&pgnum=45 Shulchan Gavoha 11:30], [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21714&st=&pgnum=17 Olat Yitzchak 1:4:1]. However, the [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41254&st=&pgnum=115 Radziner Rebbe (Ptil Techelet p. 116)] argues that Rambam does not hold like Rava since he left his statement out of the halacha.</ref> agree. This approach is also supported by the Rambam's own words in a letter<ref>Teshuvat Harambam (Blau edition 138)</ref> and that of his son, Rav Avraham ben Harambam.<ref>Halacha section of Hamaspik Lovdei Hashe (v. 2 p. 272 Dana edition, cited by Vehaya Lachem Ltzitzit v. 7 p. 28)</ref>
	# There is a dispute among the rishonim if the knot tied between each chuliya must be a double knot. ~~Mordechai holds~~ that it must be a double knot. Shulchan Aruch accepts this opinion.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 11:14. Bet Yosef quotes this approach from Tosfot 39a s.v. lo, Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Smag (Asin 26), Mordechai 940 quoting Rabbenu Elchanan. </ref> However, Rambam ~~disagrees~~ and ~~holds~~ that a single knot is acceptable.<ref>Mordechai 940 quoting Ri and Rabbenu Tam allowed a single knot. This is also implied by Rambam (Hilchot Tzitzit 1:7, teshuva 138).</ref> The Yemenite minhag is to tie a single knot between each chuliya. This single knot is not a regular single knot though, it is tied underneath the windings in a complex fashion. See [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmis8_oAw6o&ab_channel=PtilTekhelet-%D7%A4%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%AA%D7%9B%D7%9C%D7%AA here] how it is done. This practice is acceptable according to the halacha.<ref>Olat Yitzchak 1:4. He explains that the knot that Yemenites do to make each chuliya that lies beneath it is a knot that holds it tight and counts as a knot. The double knot that is used at the beginning of the knots is a later addition to the Yemenite practice and not technically necessary. Nonetheless, it is proper since it is to be strict for the opinion of the Mordechai that requires a double knot. Even though it is only one double knot and some hold that this double knot should be after the first chuliya, it isn't necessary to be so strict in this regard to satisfy every opinion. </ref>		# There is a dispute among the rishonim if the knot tied between each chuliya must be a double knot. Tosfot hold that it must be a double knot. This is also the view of Rosh, Smag, Rabbenu Elchanan, Mordechai, Sefer Hachinuch, and Tur. Shulchan Aruch accepts this opinion.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 11:14. Bet Yosef quotes this approach from Tosfot 39a s.v. lo, Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Smag (Asin 26), Mordechai 940 quoting Rabbenu Elchanan. Sefer Hachinuch 386 and Tur agree. </ref> However, Ri, Rabbenu Tam, and Rambam disagree and hold that a single knot is acceptable.<ref>Mordechai 940 quoting Ri and Rabbenu Tam allowed a single knot. This is also implied by Rambam (Hilchot Tzitzit 1:7, teshuva 138).</ref> The Yemenite minhag is to tie a single knot between each chuliya. This single knot is not a regular single knot though, it is tied underneath the windings in a complex fashion. See [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmis8_oAw6o&ab_channel=PtilTekhelet-%D7%A4%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%AA%D7%9B%D7%9C%D7%AA here] how it is done. This practice is acceptable according to the halacha.<ref>Olat Yitzchak 1:4. He explains that the knot that Yemenites do to make each chuliya that lies beneath it is a knot that holds it tight and counts as a knot. The double knot that is used at the beginning of the knots is a later addition to the Yemenite practice and not technically necessary. Nonetheless, it is proper since it is to be strict for the opinion of the Mordechai that requires a double knot. Even though it is only one double knot and some hold that this double knot should be after the first chuliya, it isn't necessary to be so strict in this regard to satisfy every opinion. </ref>

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	# Rava states that after each chuliya (group of at least 3 windings) it is necessary to have a knot.<ref>Menachot 38b</ref> It is accepted and codified by the rishonim and poskim.<ref>The statement of Rava is codified as the halacha by Tosfot (Menachot 39a s.v. lo), Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Mordechai (Menachot 38b s.v. amar rava), Eshkol (Hilchot Tzitzit 79a), Baal Haitur (Hilchot Tzitzit 68c), Rabbenu Yerucham (19:3, 169b), Bet Yosef 11:14, Prisha 11:21. Tosfot and Rosh write that nowadays we're not careful about following Rava since we don't have techelet. But they clearly imply for someone trying to tie tzitzit with techelet they should follow Rava. </ref> Even though Rambam doesn't quote this statement, Rav Yosef Karo, author of Shulchan Aruch, writes that he agrees to it.<ref>Bet Yosef 11:14</ref> Other poskim<ref>Gra 11:14, Malbim ([https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=7774&st=&pgnum=131 Artzot Hachaim 11:82]), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8016&st=&pgnum=45 Shulchan Gavoha 11:30], [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21714&st=&pgnum=17 Olat Yitzchak 1:4:1]. However, the [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41254&st=&pgnum=115 Radziner Rebbe (Ptil Techelet p. 116)] argues that Rambam does not hold like Rava since he left his statement out of the halacha.</ref> agree. This approach is also supported by the Rambam's own words in a letter<ref>Teshuvat Harambam (Blau edition 138)</ref> and that of his son, Rav Avraham ben Harambam.<ref>Halacha section of Hamaspik Lovdei Hashe (v. 2 p. 272 Dana edition, cited by Vehaya Lachem Ltzitzit v. 7 p. 28)</ref>		# Rava states that after each chuliya (group of at least 3 windings) it is necessary to have a knot.<ref>Menachot 38b</ref> It is accepted and codified by the rishonim and poskim.<ref>The statement of Rava is codified as the halacha by Tosfot (Menachot 39a s.v. lo), Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Mordechai (Menachot 38b s.v. amar rava), Eshkol (Hilchot Tzitzit 79a), Baal Haitur (Hilchot Tzitzit 68c), Rabbenu Yerucham (19:3, 169b), Bet Yosef 11:14, Prisha 11:21. Tosfot and Rosh write that nowadays we're not careful about following Rava since we don't have techelet. But they clearly imply for someone trying to tie tzitzit with techelet they should follow Rava. </ref> Even though Rambam doesn't quote this statement, Rav Yosef Karo, author of Shulchan Aruch, writes that he agrees to it.<ref>Bet Yosef 11:14</ref> Other poskim<ref>Gra 11:14, Malbim ([https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=7774&st=&pgnum=131 Artzot Hachaim 11:82]), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8016&st=&pgnum=45 Shulchan Gavoha 11:30], [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21714&st=&pgnum=17 Olat Yitzchak 1:4:1]. However, the [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41254&st=&pgnum=115 Radziner Rebbe (Ptil Techelet p. 116)] argues that Rambam does not hold like Rava since he left his statement out of the halacha.</ref> agree. This approach is also supported by the Rambam's own words in a letter<ref>Teshuvat Harambam (Blau edition 138)</ref> and that of his son, Rav Avraham ben Harambam.<ref>Halacha section of Hamaspik Lovdei Hashe (v. 2 p. 272 Dana edition, cited by Vehaya Lachem Ltzitzit v. 7 p. 28)</ref>
	# There is a dispute among the rishonim if the knot tied between each chuliya must be a double knot. Mordechai holds that it must be a double knot. Shulchan Aruch accepts this opinion.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 11:14. Bet Yosef quotes this approach from Tosfot 39a s.v. lo, Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Smag (Asin 26), Mordechai 940 quoting Rabbenu Elchanan. </ref> However, Rambam disagrees and holds that a single knot is acceptable.<ref>Mordechai 940 quoting Ri and Rabbenu Tam allowed a single knot. This is also implied by Rambam (Hilchot Tzitzit 1:7, teshuva 138).</ref> The Yemenite minhag is to do a single knot between each chuliya. This single knot is not a regular single knot though, it is tied underneath the windings in a complex fashion. See [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmis8_oAw6o&ab_channel=PtilTekhelet-%D7%A4%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%AA%D7%9B%D7%9C%D7%AA here] how it is done. This practice is acceptable according to the halacha.<ref>Olat Yitzchak 1:4. He explains that the knot that Yemenites do to make each chuliya that lies beneath it is a knot that holds it tight and counts as a knot. The double knot that is used at the beginning of the knots is a later addition to the Yemenite practice and not technically necessary. Nonetheless, it is proper since it is to be strict for the opinion of the Mordechai that requires a double knot. Even though it is only one double knot and some hold that this double knot should be after the first chuliya, it isn't necessary to be so strict in this regard to satisfy every opinion. </ref>		# There is a dispute among the rishonim if the knot tied between each chuliya must be a double knot. Mordechai holds that it must be a double knot. Shulchan Aruch accepts this opinion.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 11:14. Bet Yosef quotes this approach from Tosfot 39a s.v. lo, Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Smag (Asin 26), Mordechai 940 quoting Rabbenu Elchanan. </ref> However, Rambam disagrees and holds that a single knot is acceptable.<ref>Mordechai 940 quoting Ri and Rabbenu Tam allowed a single knot. This is also implied by Rambam (Hilchot Tzitzit 1:7, teshuva 138).</ref> The Yemenite minhag is to tie a single knot between each chuliya. This single knot is not a regular single knot though, it is tied underneath the windings in a complex fashion. See [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmis8_oAw6o&ab_channel=PtilTekhelet-%D7%A4%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%AA%D7%9B%D7%9C%D7%AA here] how it is done. This practice is acceptable according to the halacha.<ref>Olat Yitzchak 1:4. He explains that the knot that Yemenites do to make each chuliya that lies beneath it is a knot that holds it tight and counts as a knot. The double knot that is used at the beginning of the knots is a later addition to the Yemenite practice and not technically necessary. Nonetheless, it is proper since it is to be strict for the opinion of the Mordechai that requires a double knot. Even though it is only one double knot and some hold that this double knot should be after the first chuliya, it isn't necessary to be so strict in this regard to satisfy every opinion. </ref>

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	# Rava states that after each chuliya (group of at least 3 windings) it is necessary to have a knot.<ref>Menachot 38b</ref> It is accepted and codified by the rishonim and poskim.<ref>The statement of Rava is codified as the halacha by Tosfot (Menachot 39a s.v. lo), Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Mordechai (Menachot 38b s.v. amar rava), Eshkol (Hilchot Tzitzit 79a), Baal Haitur (Hilchot Tzitzit 68c), Rabbenu Yerucham (19:3, 169b), Bet Yosef 11:14, Prisha 11:21. Tosfot and Rosh write that nowadays we're not careful about following Rava since we don't have techelet. But they clearly imply for someone trying to tie tzitzit with techelet they should follow Rava. </ref> Even though Rambam doesn't quote this statement, Rav Yosef Karo, author of Shulchan Aruch, writes that he agrees to it.<ref>Bet Yosef 11:14</ref> Other poskim<ref>Gra 11:14, Malbim ([https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=7774&st=&pgnum=131 Artzot Hachaim 11:82]), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8016&st=&pgnum=45 Shulchan Gavoha 11:30], [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21714&st=&pgnum=17 Olat Yitzchak 1:4:1]. However, the [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41254&st=&pgnum=115 Radziner Rebbe (Ptil Techelet p. 116)] argues that Rambam does not hold like Rava since he left his statement out of the halacha.</ref> agree. This approach is also supported by the Rambam's own words in a letter<ref>Teshuvat Harambam (Blau edition 138)</ref> and that of his son, Rav Avraham ben Harambam.<ref>Halacha section of Hamaspik Lovdei Hashe (v. 2 p. 272 Dana edition, cited by Vehaya Lachem Ltzitzit v. 7 p. 28)</ref>		# Rava states that after each chuliya (group of at least 3 windings) it is necessary to have a knot.<ref>Menachot 38b</ref> It is accepted and codified by the rishonim and poskim.<ref>The statement of Rava is codified as the halacha by Tosfot (Menachot 39a s.v. lo), Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Mordechai (Menachot 38b s.v. amar rava), Eshkol (Hilchot Tzitzit 79a), Baal Haitur (Hilchot Tzitzit 68c), Rabbenu Yerucham (19:3, 169b), Bet Yosef 11:14, Prisha 11:21. Tosfot and Rosh write that nowadays we're not careful about following Rava since we don't have techelet. But they clearly imply for someone trying to tie tzitzit with techelet they should follow Rava. </ref> Even though Rambam doesn't quote this statement, Rav Yosef Karo, author of Shulchan Aruch, writes that he agrees to it.<ref>Bet Yosef 11:14</ref> Other poskim<ref>Gra 11:14, Malbim ([https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=7774&st=&pgnum=131 Artzot Hachaim 11:82]), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8016&st=&pgnum=45 Shulchan Gavoha 11:30], [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21714&st=&pgnum=17 Olat Yitzchak 1:4:1]. However, the [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41254&st=&pgnum=115 Radziner Rebbe (Ptil Techelet p. 116)] argues that Rambam does not hold like Rava since he left his statement out of the halacha.</ref> agree. This approach is also supported by the Rambam's own words in a letter<ref>Teshuvat Harambam (Blau edition 138)</ref> and that of his son, Rav Avraham ben Harambam.<ref>Halacha section of Hamaspik Lovdei Hashe (v. 2 p. 272 Dana edition, cited by Vehaya Lachem Ltzitzit v. 7 p. 28)</ref>
	# There is a dispute among the rishonim if the knot tied between each chuliya must be a double knot. Mordechai holds that it must be a double knot. Shulchan Aruch accepts this opinion.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 11:14. Bet Yosef quotes this approach from Tosfot 39a s.v. lo, Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Smag (Asin 26), Mordechai 940 quoting Rabbenu Elchanan. </ref> However, Rambam disagrees and holds that a single knot is acceptable.<ref>Mordechai 940 quoting Ri and Rabbenu Tam allowed a single knot. This is also implied by Rambam (Hilchot Tzitzit 1:7, teshuva 138).</ref> The Yemenite minhag is to do a single knot between each chuliya. This single knot is not a regular single knot though, it is tied underneath the windings in a complex fashion. See here how it is done. This practice is acceptable according to the halacha.<ref>Olat Yitzchak 1:4. He explains that the knot that Yemenites do to make each chuliya that lies beneath it is a knot that holds it tight and counts as a knot. The double knot that is used at the beginning of the knots is a later addition to the Yemenite practice and not technically necessary. Nonetheless, it is proper since it is to be strict for the opinion of the Mordechai that requires a double knot. Even though it is only one double knot and some hold that this double knot should be after the first chuliya, it isn't necessary to be so strict in this regard to satisfy every opinion. </ref>		# There is a dispute among the rishonim if the knot tied between each chuliya must be a double knot. Mordechai holds that it must be a double knot. Shulchan Aruch accepts this opinion.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 11:14. Bet Yosef quotes this approach from Tosfot 39a s.v. lo, Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Smag (Asin 26), Mordechai 940 quoting Rabbenu Elchanan. </ref> However, Rambam disagrees and holds that a single knot is acceptable.<ref>Mordechai 940 quoting Ri and Rabbenu Tam allowed a single knot. This is also implied by Rambam (Hilchot Tzitzit 1:7, teshuva 138).</ref> The Yemenite minhag is to do a single knot between each chuliya. This single knot is not a regular single knot though, it is tied underneath the windings in a complex fashion. See [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmis8_oAw6o&ab_channel=PtilTekhelet-%D7%A4%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%AA%D7%9B%D7%9C%D7%AA here] how it is done. This practice is acceptable according to the halacha.<ref>Olat Yitzchak 1:4. He explains that the knot that Yemenites do to make each chuliya that lies beneath it is a knot that holds it tight and counts as a knot. The double knot that is used at the beginning of the knots is a later addition to the Yemenite practice and not technically necessary. Nonetheless, it is proper since it is to be strict for the opinion of the Mordechai that requires a double knot. Even though it is only one double knot and some hold that this double knot should be after the first chuliya, it isn't necessary to be so strict in this regard to satisfy every opinion. </ref>

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	# Rava states that after each chuliya (group of at least 3 windings) it is necessary to have a knot.<ref>Menachot 38b</ref> It is accepted and codified by the rishonim and poskim.<ref>The statement of Rava is codified as the halacha by Tosfot (Menachot 39a s.v. lo), Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Mordechai (Menachot 38b s.v. amar rava), Eshkol (Hilchot Tzitzit 79a), Baal Haitur (Hilchot Tzitzit 68c), Rabbenu Yerucham (19:3, 169b), Bet Yosef 11:14, Prisha 11:21. Tosfot and Rosh write that nowadays we're not careful about following Rava since we don't have techelet. But they clearly imply for someone trying to tie tzitzit with techelet they should follow Rava. </ref> Even though Rambam doesn't quote this statement, Rav Yosef Karo, author of Shulchan Aruch, writes that he agrees to it.<ref>Bet Yosef 11:14</ref> Other poskim<ref>Gra 11:14, Malbim ([https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=7774&st=&pgnum=131 Artzot Hachaim 11:82]), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8016&st=&pgnum=45 Shulchan Gavoha 11:30], [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21714&st=&pgnum=17 Olat Yitzchak 1:4:1]. However, the [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41254&st=&pgnum=115 Radziner Rebbe (Ptil Techelet p. 116)] argues that Rambam does not hold like Rava since he left his statement out of the halacha.</ref> agree. This approach is also supported by the Rambam's own words in a letter<ref>Teshuvat Harambam (Blau edition 138)</ref> and that of his son, Rav Avraham ben Harambam.<ref>Halacha section of Hamaspik Lovdei Hashe (v. 2 p. 272 Dana edition, cited by Vehaya Lachem Ltzitzit v. 7 p. 28)</ref>		# Rava states that after each chuliya (group of at least 3 windings) it is necessary to have a knot.<ref>Menachot 38b</ref> It is accepted and codified by the rishonim and poskim.<ref>The statement of Rava is codified as the halacha by Tosfot (Menachot 39a s.v. lo), Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Mordechai (Menachot 38b s.v. amar rava), Eshkol (Hilchot Tzitzit 79a), Baal Haitur (Hilchot Tzitzit 68c), Rabbenu Yerucham (19:3, 169b), Bet Yosef 11:14, Prisha 11:21. Tosfot and Rosh write that nowadays we're not careful about following Rava since we don't have techelet. But they clearly imply for someone trying to tie tzitzit with techelet they should follow Rava. </ref> Even though Rambam doesn't quote this statement, Rav Yosef Karo, author of Shulchan Aruch, writes that he agrees to it.<ref>Bet Yosef 11:14</ref> Other poskim<ref>Gra 11:14, Malbim ([https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=7774&st=&pgnum=131 Artzot Hachaim 11:82]), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8016&st=&pgnum=45 Shulchan Gavoha 11:30], [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21714&st=&pgnum=17 Olat Yitzchak 1:4:1]. However, the [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41254&st=&pgnum=115 Radziner Rebbe (Ptil Techelet p. 116)] argues that Rambam does not hold like Rava since he left his statement out of the halacha.</ref> agree. This approach is also supported by the Rambam's own words in a letter<ref>Teshuvat Harambam (Blau edition 138)</ref> and that of his son, Rav Avraham ben Harambam.<ref>Halacha section of Hamaspik Lovdei Hashe (v. 2 p. 272 Dana edition, cited by Vehaya Lachem Ltzitzit v. 7 p. 28)</ref>
			# There is a dispute among the rishonim if the knot tied between each chuliya must be a double knot. Mordechai holds that it must be a double knot. Shulchan Aruch accepts this opinion.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 11:14. Bet Yosef quotes this approach from Tosfot 39a s.v. lo, Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Smag (Asin 26), Mordechai 940 quoting Rabbenu Elchanan. </ref> However, Rambam disagrees and holds that a single knot is acceptable.<ref>Mordechai 940 quoting Ri and Rabbenu Tam allowed a single knot. This is also implied by Rambam (Hilchot Tzitzit 1:7, teshuva 138).</ref> The Yemenite minhag is to do a single knot between each chuliya. This single knot is not a regular single knot though, it is tied underneath the windings in a complex fashion. See here how it is done. This practice is acceptable according to the halacha.<ref>Olat Yitzchak 1:4. He explains that the knot that Yemenites do to make each chuliya that lies beneath it is a knot that holds it tight and counts as a knot. The double knot that is used at the beginning of the knots is a later addition to the Yemenite practice and not technically necessary. Nonetheless, it is proper since it is to be strict for the opinion of the Mordechai that requires a double knot. Even though it is only one double knot and some hold that this double knot should be after the first chuliya, it isn't necessary to be so strict in this regard to satisfy every opinion. </ref>

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	== Number of Knots ==		== Number of Knots ==

	# Rava states that after each chuliya (group of at least 3 windings) it is necessary to have a knot.<ref>Menachot 38b</ref> It is accepted and codified by the rishonim and poskim.<ref>The statement of Rava is codified as the halacha by Tosfot (Menachot 39a s.v. lo), Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Mordechai (Menachot 38b s.v. amar rava), Eshkol (Hilchot Tzitzit 79a), Baal Haitur (Hilchot Tzitzit 68c), Rabbenu Yerucham (19:3, 169b), Bet Yosef 11:14, Prisha 11:21. Tosfot and Rosh write that nowadays we're not careful about following Rava since we don't have techelet. But they clearly imply for someone trying to tie tzitzit with techelet they should follow Rava. </ref> Even though Rambam doesn't quote this statement, Rav Yosef Karo, author of Shulchan Aruch, writes that he agrees to it.<ref>Bet Yosef 11:14</ref> Other poskim<ref>Malbim ([https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=7774&st=&pgnum=131 Artzot Hachaim 11:82]), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8016&st=&pgnum=45 Shulchan Gavoha 11:30], [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21714&st=&pgnum=17 Olat Yitzchak 1:4:1]. However, the [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41254&st=&pgnum=115 Radziner Rebbe (Ptil Techelet p. 116)] argues that Rambam does not hold like Rava since he left his statement out of the halacha.</ref> agree. This ~~contention~~ is supported by the Rambam's words in a letter.<ref>Teshuvat Harambam (Blau edition 138)</ref>		# Rava states that after each chuliya (group of at least 3 windings) it is necessary to have a knot.<ref>Menachot 38b</ref> It is accepted and codified by the rishonim and poskim.<ref>The statement of Rava is codified as the halacha by Tosfot (Menachot 39a s.v. lo), Rosh (Hilchot Tzitzit n. 15), Mordechai (Menachot 38b s.v. amar rava), Eshkol (Hilchot Tzitzit 79a), Baal Haitur (Hilchot Tzitzit 68c), Rabbenu Yerucham (19:3, 169b), Bet Yosef 11:14, Prisha 11:21. Tosfot and Rosh write that nowadays we're not careful about following Rava since we don't have techelet. But they clearly imply for someone trying to tie tzitzit with techelet they should follow Rava. </ref> Even though Rambam doesn't quote this statement, Rav Yosef Karo, author of Shulchan Aruch, writes that he agrees to it.<ref>Bet Yosef 11:14</ref> Other poskim<ref>Gra 11:14, Malbim ([https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=7774&st=&pgnum=131 Artzot Hachaim 11:82]), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8016&st=&pgnum=45 Shulchan Gavoha 11:30], [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21714&st=&pgnum=17 Olat Yitzchak 1:4:1]. However, the [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41254&st=&pgnum=115 Radziner Rebbe (Ptil Techelet p. 116)] argues that Rambam does not hold like Rava since he left his statement out of the halacha.</ref> agree. This approach is also supported by the Rambam's own words in a letter<ref>Teshuvat Harambam (Blau edition 138)</ref> and that of his son, Rav Avraham ben Harambam.<ref>Halacha section of Hamaspik Lovdei Hashe (v. 2 p. 272 Dana edition, cited by Vehaya Lachem Ltzitzit v. 7 p. 28)</ref>

	==If the Strings Ripped==		==If the Strings Ripped==

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	==Debate of Requirement Nowadays==		==Debate of Requirement Nowadays==

	*The Mishna (~~menachot~~ 38a) writes that wearing [[Tzitzit]] without Techelet also fulfills the mitzvah of [[Tzitzit]] (while lacking a part of the mitzvah).<ref>Rashi on this mishna interprets this differently. When the mishna describes that the lack of white doesn't invalidate blue or vice versa, Rashi says this means that the number of techelet and white strings must be equal.</ref> This is codified in the Rambam ([[Tzitzit]] 1:3).		*The Mishna (Menachot 38a) writes that wearing [[Tzitzit]] without Techelet also fulfills the mitzvah of [[Tzitzit]] (while lacking a part of the mitzvah).<ref>Rashi on this mishna interprets this differently. When the mishna describes that the lack of white doesn't invalidate blue or vice versa, Rashi says this means that the number of techelet and white strings must be equal.</ref> This is codified in the Rambam ([[Tzitzit]] 1:3).
	*From the end of the era of the sages of the Gemara Techelet became unavailable and extinct from common practice. However, in the last century and a half many have investigated this lost dye and some claim to have rediscovered it. The halachic question is how to deal with the dyes which some have claimed to be the real Techelet of the Torah.		*From the end of the era of the sages of the Gemara Techelet became unavailable and extinct from common practice. However, in the last century and a half many have investigated this lost dye and some claim to have rediscovered it. The halachic question is how to deal with the dyes which some have claimed to be the real Techelet of the Torah.
	*Rav Hershel Schachter in Ginat Egoz (Siman 2) writes that there is very little reason not to wear Techelet [[Tzitzit]] because of a doubt that perhaps it is the correct Techelet. He addresses the fact that the minhag is to wear a white garment with white strings, but says clearly that there’s no reason that this minhag should override a possibility to fulfill a biblical mitzvah. Furthermore, the Bet HaLevi (Sh”t Bet HaLevi 42) who says that there’s a prohibition of detracting from the ~~מצות~~ by fulfilling a mitzvah in a inferior way but that since a positive mitzvah overrides a negative one, there’s still reason to wear [[Tzitzit]] without Techelet because one still fulfills a positive mitzvah. Extending this further, Rav Schachter writes that if a person owns Techelet then it becomes possible to fulfill the positive mitzvah and negative one simultaneously and therefore one wouldn’t be allowed to use a positive mitzvah to override a negative one.		*Rav Hershel Schachter in Ginat Egoz (Siman 2) writes that there is very little reason not to wear Techelet [[Tzitzit]] because of a doubt that perhaps it is the correct Techelet. He addresses the fact that the minhag is to wear a white garment with white strings, but says clearly that there’s no reason that this minhag should override a possibility to fulfill a biblical mitzvah. Furthermore, the Bet HaLevi (Sh”t Bet HaLevi 42) who says that there’s a prohibition of detracting from the mitzvot by fulfilling a mitzvah in a inferior way but that since a positive mitzvah overrides a negative one, there’s still reason to wear [[Tzitzit]] without Techelet because one still fulfills a positive mitzvah. Extending this further, Rav Schachter writes that if a person owns Techelet then it becomes possible to fulfill the positive mitzvah and negative one simultaneously and therefore one wouldn’t be allowed to use a positive mitzvah to override a negative one.
	*There are other Poskim who hold of wearing Techelet but most don't hold it is as much as a Chiyuv as Rav Schachter. Rav Meir Mazuz, Rosh Yeshiva of Kiseh Rachamim in Bnei Brak, wears Techeles on [[Shabbos]] and Yom Tov as he holds it's not a Chiyuv rather a nice Chumra. <ref>[http://www.ykr.org.il/modules/Ask/answer/1629 Kisei Rachamim's website]</ref>		*There are other Poskim who hold of wearing Techelet but most don't hold it is as much as a Chiyuv as Rav Schachter. Rav Meir Mazuz, Rosh Yeshiva of Kiseh Rachamim in Bnei Brak, wears Techeles on [[Shabbos]] and Yom Tov as he holds it's not a Chiyuv rather a nice Chumra. <ref>[http://www.ykr.org.il/modules/Ask/answer/1629 Kisei Rachamim's website]</ref>
	*However, the overwhelming minhag for the last century was not to wear the Techelet which were suggested as the real species of Techelet. There’s a short article of Rav Elyashiv (Kovetz Teshuvot 1:2) who mentions several reasons to defend this practice. See Teshuvot vihanhagot 1:29 and 4:5 who quotes Rav Chaim Pinchas Scheinberg saying that future generations may think that we have had the tradition the entire time. Also, http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=785&txtSearch=techelet quotes Chacham Ben-tzion Abba Shaul who says that if your father and grandfather didn't wear a string of techelet than you should follow that practice as well. ~~Rav Shlomo Aviner~~ http://www.ravaviner.com/2011/06/techelet.html ~~and in~~ Shu"t She'elat Shlomo 4:12-20 also gives several reasons not to wear techelet. ~~So does~~ [http://en.tvunah.org/2013/12/16/tcheiles-from-murex-truncules/ Rav Osher Weiss]		*However, the overwhelming minhag for the last century was not to wear the Techelet which were suggested as the real species of Techelet. There’s a short article of Rav Elyashiv (Kovetz Teshuvot 1:2) who mentions several reasons to defend this practice. See Teshuvot vihanhagot 1:29 and 4:5 who quotes Rav Chaim Pinchas Scheinberg saying that future generations may think that we have had the tradition the entire time. Also, [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=785&txtSearch=techelet Rabbi Mansour] quotes Chacham Ben-tzion Abba Shaul who says that if your father and grandfather didn't wear a string of techelet than you should follow that practice as well. [http://www.ravaviner.com/2011/06/techelet.html Rav Shlomo Aviner] (Shu"t She'elat Shlomo 4:12-20) also gives several reasons not to wear techelet. This is also the view of [http://en.tvunah.org/2013/12/16/tcheiles-from-murex-truncules/ Rav Osher Weiss].
	*Firstly, the discoveries made regarding the Techelet have been inconclusive and the first two claims were later disproved and who’s to say that the new one which is claimed to be authentic will stand the test of time. Additionally, perhaps by the mere fact that for over a thousand years Jews haven’t used such a species for Techelet is a tradition that this species isn’t the correct one. Some sources even point to the fact that the secret of the Techelet was hidden after the destruction of the Bet Hamikdash. Lastly, how are we to determine the correct method in developing the dye if it’s disputed even in the early authorities and the dispute is left unresolved.		*Firstly, the discoveries made regarding the Techelet have been inconclusive and the first two claims were later disproved and who’s to say that the new one which is claimed to be authentic will stand the test of time. Additionally, perhaps by the mere fact that for over a thousand years Jews haven’t used such a species for Techelet is a tradition that this species isn’t the correct one. Some sources even point to the fact that the secret of the Techelet was hidden after the destruction of the Bet Hamikdash. Lastly, how are we to determine the correct method in developing the dye if it’s disputed even in the early authorities and the dispute is left unresolved.

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	*Rambam holds that one string out of ~~eighth~~ are techelet.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes.1.6/ Rambam Halachot Tzitzit 1:6]</ref> Maggid Meisharim, Mabit, Maharam Ibn Gabay, Sefer Charedim, Levush, Gra,<ref>Ptil Tekhelet 6:15-16 based on the Gra's commentary to Zohar Pinchas 228, Sifra Ditzineuta Trumah 179b end of ch. 5, Raya Mehemna Shlach 175, and Biur Hagra O.C. 12:5.</ref> Sefer Hakaneh, and Arizal agree with the Rambam. Radziner in Petil Techelet ch. 6 ends up following the Rambam but says one has what to rely upon to follow either of the other opinions. Ben Ish Chai (Noach n. 17) and in [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41237&st=&pgnum=101 Od Yosef Chay (Vaera n. 3)] holds like the Rambam. [https://www.ykr.org.il/question/10327 Rav Meir Mazuz] and [https://www.ykr.org.il/question/1629 Rav Yonatan Mazuz] agree.		*'''Rambam''' holds that '''one''' string out of eight are techelet.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes.1.6/ Rambam Halachot Tzitzit 1:6]</ref> Maggid Meisharim, Mabit, Maharam Ibn Gabay, Sefer Charedim, Levush, Gra,<ref>Ptil Tekhelet 6:15-16 based on the Gra's commentary to Zohar Pinchas 228, Sifra Ditzineuta Trumah 179b end of ch. 5, Raya Mehemna Shlach 175, and Biur Hagra O.C. 12:5.</ref> Sefer Hakaneh, and Arizal agree with the Rambam. Radziner in Petil Techelet ch. 6 ends up following the Rambam but says one has what to rely upon to follow either of the other opinions. Ben Ish Chai (Noach n. 17) and in [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41237&st=&pgnum=101 Od Yosef Chay (Vaera n. 3)] holds like the Rambam. [https://www.ykr.org.il/question/10327 Rav Meir Mazuz] and [https://www.ykr.org.il/question/1629 Rav Yonatan Mazuz] agree.
	*Raavad holds that ~~one string out of four (~~two out of eight~~) is~~ techelet.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Hasagot_HaRaavad_on_Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes.1.6.1/ Raavad on Rambam Halachot Tzitzit 1:6]</ref> Sefer Hachinuch<ref>Sefer Hachinuch 386 writes that the techelet string (singular) needs to be died lishma. This implies that he holds like Raavad that one out of the four strings is techelet. Also he writes that you wrap the techelet string (singular) upon the others. He certainly seems not to hold like Rashi and Tosfot. Also, he seems to hold like Raavad since he does not specify that only half of one of the strings is techelet, like Rambam. </ref> and Aruch<ref>Erech Techelet</ref> agree with the Raavad. Smag has safek like Tosfot or Raavad. Some achronim hold like the Raavad.<ref>Birurei Halacha Bmitzvat Techelet Shebetzitzit p. 63 n. 106 learns from the Rambam Tzitzit 1:5 that even if one uses more strings of techelet than are necessary one fulfills the mitzvah. p. 72 n. 117 he concludes to follow the Raavad since it is the opinion of many rishonim and the Rambam would agree. </ref>		*'''Raavad''' holds that two out of the eight strings are techelet.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Hasagot_HaRaavad_on_Mishneh_Torah%2C_Fringes.1.6.1/ Raavad on Rambam Halachot Tzitzit 1:6]</ref> Sefer Hachinuch<ref>Sefer Hachinuch 386 writes that the techelet string (singular) needs to be died lishma. This implies that he holds like Raavad that one out of the four strings is techelet. Also he writes that you wrap the techelet string (singular) upon the others. He certainly seems not to hold like Rashi and Tosfot. Also, he seems to hold like Raavad since he does not specify that only half of one of the strings is techelet, like Rambam. </ref> and Aruch<ref>Erech Techelet</ref> agree with the Raavad. Smag has safek like Tosfot or Raavad. Some achronim hold like the Raavad.<ref>Birurei Halacha Bmitzvat Techelet Shebetzitzit p. 63 n. 106 learns from the Rambam Tzitzit 1:5 that even if one uses more strings of techelet than are necessary one fulfills the mitzvah. p. 72 n. 117 he concludes to follow the Raavad since it is the opinion of many rishonim and the Rambam would agree. </ref>
	*Rashi and Tosfot hold that four strings out of ~~eighth~~ are techelet.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Rashi_on_Menachot.38a.4.1 Rashi on Mishna of Menachot 38a]. Rosh Hilchot Tzitzit n. 6 seems to agree.</ref> [https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/788501/rabbi-hershel-schachter/hilchos-tzitzis/ Rav Schachter ("Hilchos Tzitzis" beginning)] holds like Rashi and Tosfot and recommends all Ashkenazim to follow this method due to the plethora of sources advocating it (Baal haIttur, Tur, Shulchan Aruch, etc.).		*'''Rashi''' and '''Tosfot''' hold that '''four''' strings out of eight are techelet.<ref>[https://www.sefaria.org/Rashi_on_Menachot.38a.4.1 Rashi on Mishna of Menachot 38a]. Rosh Hilchot Tzitzit n. 6 seems to agree.</ref> [https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/788501/rabbi-hershel-schachter/hilchos-tzitzis/ Rav Schachter] <ref>Rav Schachter [https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/788501/rabbi-hershel-schachter/hilchos-tzitzis/ (YUTorah "Hilchos Tzitzis," at the beginning)]</ref> holds like Rashi and Tosfot and recommends all Ashkenazim to follow this method due to the plethora of sources advocating it (Baal haIttur, Tur, Shulchan Aruch, etc.).

	==Tying Methodology==		==Tying Methodology==