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# It is forbidden to have one's young child do any violation of [[Shabbat]] such as turning on a light. <Ref>[http://www.ou.org/webcast_kosher Rabbi Hershel Schachter] (OU Kosher Webcast, min 18-19) rules that this is a biblical violation of [[Shabbat]]. </ref> | # It is forbidden to have one's young child do any violation of [[Shabbat]] such as turning on a light. <Ref>[http://www.ou.org/webcast_kosher Rabbi Hershel Schachter] (OU Kosher Webcast, min 18-19) rules that this is a biblical violation of [[Shabbat]]. </ref> | ||
# If a child turns on a light on his own and for his own benefit, there's room to be lenient to benefit from that violation of [[Shabbat]]. <Ref>[http://www.ou.org/webcast_kosher Rabbi Hershel Schachter] (OU Kosher Webcast, min 18-19) says that there's room to be lenient since the child is like mitasek and if he did it for himself then it's not forbidden from benefit like a non-Jew who did work for himself. </ref> | # If a child turns on a light on his own and for his own benefit, there's room to be lenient to benefit from that violation of [[Shabbat]]. <Ref>[http://www.ou.org/webcast_kosher Rabbi Hershel Schachter] (OU Kosher Webcast, min 18-19) says that there's room to be lenient since the child is like mitasek and if he did it for himself then it's not forbidden from benefit like a non-Jew who did work for himself. </ref> | ||
# A Sephardi can ask an Ashkenazi to ask a non-Jew to turn on a light or do another melacha in the case of a great need of a mitzvah for a lot of people since for Ashkenazim it is permitted.<ref>[https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=62354 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Shalach 5778 min 30)] permitted a Sephardi to ask an Ashkenazi to ask a non-Jew to do a melacha on Shabbat for a great need of a mitzvah for a lot of people because the Rama 276 is lenient and there's no issue of amirah leyisrael. His proof was 263:17. He added that one should explain it to the Ashkenazi so that he isn't offended.</ref> | |||
===If One Accepted Shabbat Early=== | ===If One Accepted Shabbat Early=== | ||
# One who accepted [[shabbat]] early is permitted to ask his friend who didn’t, to do melacha for him. <ref> Yalkut Yosef 261:3. Mishna Brurah 263:64 says that this is permitted but adds that if it is close to sunset, one should be stringent since most Jews probably accepted [[shabbat]] at that point. Rashba [[Shabbat]] 151A “Amar R’ yehuda” quotes that since the gemara allows you to ask a Jew to watch fruit which is outside of your [[techum]], since it is inside of his, that Tosfot hold that a Jew who accepted [[Shabbat]] before sunset can ask a Jew who didn’t yet, to do work for him even though he can’t do it for himself. Ritva there agrees. Chatam Sofer [[Shabbat]] 151a writes that the Ran on the Rif 64b disagrees and rejects the proof. S”A 263:17 writes that yesh omrim that somebody who accepted [[shabbat]] early can ask his friend to do work for him. Rama there adds that one can surely benefit from that melacha after the fact. In Darchei Moshe 263:8 he adds that this would be true even according to the Rama. Taz 263:3 is lenient and says that the Ran didn't necessarily disagree, he was just rejected the proof brought by the Rashba. Magen Avraham 263:33 is lenient as well. </ref> | # One who accepted [[shabbat]] early is permitted to ask his friend who didn’t, to do melacha for him. <ref> Yalkut Yosef 261:3. Mishna Brurah 263:64 says that this is permitted but adds that if it is close to sunset, one should be stringent since most Jews probably accepted [[shabbat]] at that point. Rashba [[Shabbat]] 151A “Amar R’ yehuda” quotes that since the gemara allows you to ask a Jew to watch fruit which is outside of your [[techum]], since it is inside of his, that Tosfot hold that a Jew who accepted [[Shabbat]] before sunset can ask a Jew who didn’t yet, to do work for him even though he can’t do it for himself. Ritva there agrees. Chatam Sofer [[Shabbat]] 151a writes that the Ran on the Rif 64b disagrees and rejects the proof. S”A 263:17 writes that yesh omrim that somebody who accepted [[shabbat]] early can ask his friend to do work for him. Rama there adds that one can surely benefit from that melacha after the fact. In Darchei Moshe 263:8 he adds that this would be true even according to the Rama. Taz 263:3 is lenient and says that the Ran didn't necessarily disagree, he was just rejected the proof brought by the Rashba. Magen Avraham 263:33 is lenient as well. </ref> | ||
