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#  It is permitted to put a spoon or ladle inside a pot, which is off the fire, as long as one is careful that the spoon or ladle is free from any remnants of water or uncooked food. <Ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:34 </ref>
#  It is permitted to put a spoon or ladle inside a pot, which is off the fire, as long as one is careful that the spoon or ladle is free from any remnants of water or uncooked food. <Ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:34 </ref>


==Hot tap water==
==Hot Tap Water==
# Turning on the hot tap water is prohibited on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 2 pg 639) </ref> It’s forbidden to use the hot water even if one turns off the hot water heater before [[Shabbat]]. <ref> The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 2 pg 640) </ref>
# Turning on the hot tap water is prohibited on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>The Laws of Shabbat (Rabbi Eider p. 395), The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 2 pg 639), Igrot Moshe YD 2:33, Yabia Omer OC 4:35. R' Eider cites Rav Henkin (Edut Lyisrael p. 122), Chelkat Yakov 1:78, Minchat Yitzchak 3:137, Tzitz Eliezer 2:18, Chazon Ish's letter in Menucha Nechona p. 61 who all agree that using the hot tap water is forbidden on Shabbat. </ref> It’s forbidden to use the hot water even if one turns off the hot water heater before [[Shabbat]]. <ref> The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 2 pg 640) </ref>
# In cases of extreme need there may be a basis for permitting using hot tap water, however, a Rav must be consulted before using this leniency. <Ref> The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 2 pg 640) </ref>
# In cases of extreme need there may be a basis for permitting using hot tap water in a multi-family home, however, a Rav must be consulted before using this leniency. <Ref> The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 2 pg 640) considers it to be a case of safek pesik reisha with a grama which has a possibility of being lenient. However, he isn't sure that it is a grama. Yabia Omer 4:35 flatly rejects the idea that it is grama since as the hot water is remove new cold water enters. Igrot Moshe YD 2:33 agrees.</ref>
# One may leave on a hot water faucet from before [[Shabbat]]. One may not turn off a hot water tap if the tap has been running to the point that the water in the boiler is colder than Yad Soldet Bo (after 15-20 minutes), however if the faucet has only been running for a short time or it’s only open slightly and the water is still Yad Soldet Bo, then it’s permissible it turn it off. <Ref> The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 2 pg 640-1). Rav Shlomo Zalman in Shulchan Shlomo 318:44 (cited by Halacha Brurah 318:74) writes that if the faucet is only a little bit open it is permitted to close it since the little bit of water that enters gets cooked immediately and closing the faucet doesn't cause the waters to cook any quicker. </ref> Some say that it is forbidden to turn off in all circumstances.<ref>Halacha Brurah 318:74 writes that if the water boiler is electric and automatically continues to work even if the hot water has been running for a long time. Additionally, it is forbidden if the boiler works with a gas fire that turns off when the hot water is closed. However, if the system stops working once the water has emptied out then it is permitted to close the hot faucet once the water coming out is no longer Yad Soledet Bo since closing it isn't going to cause the water inside to get cooked as the system is currently off. In the footnote he discusses whether one can close the faucet because it is considered grama and he concludes that he isn't sure that it is grama based on Yabia Omer OC 4:35.</ref>
# One may leave on a hot water faucet from before [[Shabbat]]. One may not turn off a hot water tap if the tap has been running to the point that the water in the boiler is colder than Yad Soldet Bo (after 15-20 minutes), however if the faucet has only been running for a short time or it’s only open slightly and the water is still Yad Soldet Bo, then it’s permissible it turn it off. <Ref> The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 2 pg 640-1). Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach in Shulchan Shlomo 318:44 (cited by Halacha Brurah 318:74) writes that if the faucet is only a little bit open it is permitted to close it since the little bit of water that enters gets cooked immediately and closing the faucet doesn't cause the waters to cook any quicker. </ref> Some say that it is forbidden to turn off in all circumstances.<ref>Halacha Brurah 318:74 writes that if the water boiler is electric and automatically continues to work even if the hot water has been running for a long time. Additionally, it is forbidden if the boiler works with a gas fire that turns off when the hot water is closed. However, if the system stops working once the water has emptied out then it is permitted to close the hot faucet once the water coming out is no longer Yad Soledet Bo since closing it isn't going to cause the water inside to get cooked as the system is currently off. In the footnote he discusses whether one can close the faucet because it is considered grama and he concludes that he isn't sure that it is grama based on Yabia Omer OC 4:35.</ref>
# Even when it’s permissible to turn on the hot water tap or if one left on the hot water tap from before [[Shabbat]] other issues including:  
# Even when it’s permissible to turn on the hot water tap or if one left on the hot water tap from before [[Shabbat]] other issues including:  
## make sure that one does not use the hot and cold water at the same time in one faucet and  
## make sure that one does not use the hot and cold water at the same time in one faucet and