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#Taking a particular bencher from a pile is considered Borer unless it fulfills the requirements of taking the food from refuse for immediate use with one’s hand. <Ref> [[Shabbos]] Kitchen pg 87 </ref> | #Taking a particular bencher from a pile is considered Borer unless it fulfills the requirements of taking the food from refuse for immediate use with one’s hand. <Ref> [[Shabbos]] Kitchen pg 87 </ref> | ||
===Filtering tap water on Shabbat=== | ===Filtering tap water on Shabbat=== | ||
# If the tap water is drinkable without filtering it is permissible to filter it on [[Shabbat]].<ref> Shulchan Aruch O.C. 319:10, Mishna Brurah 319:34, Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:56 (in new editions 3:60), Chazon Ish 53 s.v. VeIm, 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3 pg 520) </ref> Those who hold that one should not drink New York tap water because of copepods, according to many poskim, may nonetheless filter the water on [[Shabbat]].<ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:60 writes that if people don’t drink the water in a certain place because of bugs one shouldn’t use a filter, however, one may drink directly from the faucet without a cup. | # If the tap water is drinkable without filtering it is permissible to filter it on [[Shabbat]].<ref> Shulchan Aruch O.C. 319:10, Mishna Brurah 319:34, Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:56 (in new editions 3:60), Chazon Ish 53 s.v. VeIm, 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3 pg 520) </ref> Those who hold that one should not drink New York tap water because of copepods, according to many poskim, may nonetheless filter the water on [[Shabbat]] with a sink filter that is built in.<ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:60 writes that if people don’t drink the water in a certain place because of bugs one shouldn’t use a filter, however, one may drink directly from the faucet without a cup. | ||
* However, Rav Hershel Schachter on “Kashrus of Bugs” on OU Kosher Tidbits (www.ouradio.org, min 39-45) permits using a filter for NY tap water on [[Shabbat]] based on 4 reasons: (1) The bugs might be considered kosher (see S”A YD 84:16) (2) The amount of bugs in the water varies at different times of the day and may not require checking (See RJJ vol 49, pg 34, by David Shabtai) (3) The bugs aren’t necessarily waste since non-Jews eat it and it’s only halacha that prevents us (Chaye Adam in Nishmat Adam 16:5) (4) The sink filter is built in and automatically filters all the water even that which is for non-drinking purposes (Minchat Yitzchak 7:23; this would not apply to a filtered pitcher used for drinking). Rav Doniel Nuestadt (Yeshurun vol 17, pg 535) discusses the last two reasons at length and argues that the third reason is a dispute in the rishonim. See Rav Belsky in Shulchan HaLevi 12 who writes that he holds the NY tap water is kosher, however, one who holds it needs filtering may not filter it on [[Shabbat]] and disagrees with the third argument. </ref> | * However, Rav Hershel Schachter on “Kashrus of Bugs” on OU Kosher Tidbits (www.ouradio.org, min 39-45) permits using a filter for NY tap water on [[Shabbat]] based on 4 reasons: (1) The bugs might be considered kosher (see S”A YD 84:16) (2) The amount of bugs in the water varies at different times of the day and may not require checking (See RJJ vol 49, pg 34, by David Shabtai) (3) The bugs aren’t necessarily waste since non-Jews eat it and it’s only halacha that prevents us (Chaye Adam in Nishmat Adam 16:5) (4) The sink filter is built in and automatically filters all the water even that which is for non-drinking purposes (Minchat Yitzchak 7:23; this would not apply to a filtered pitcher used for drinking). Rav Doniel Nuestadt (Yeshurun vol 17, pg 535) discusses the last two reasons at length and argues that the third reason is a dispute in the rishonim. See Rav Belsky in Shulchan HaLevi 12 who writes that he holds the NY tap water is kosher, however, one who holds it needs filtering may not filter it on [[Shabbat]] and disagrees with the third argument. </ref> | ||
