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## Megilat Sefer (pg 268) s.v. Min HaAmur writes that if one rips a plastic bag bag open in a destructive way it’s [[Muktzeh]] since it’s usual to throw out. However, Adnei Shlomo (pg 265, 308:204) argues based on the Rashba. the Chut HaSheni (Rav Nassim Karlitz; vol 3, chapter 51, pg 106) also argues that if it was not thrown out before [[Shabbat]] it’s not [[Muktzeh]]. [Matnat Yehuda (pg 317) quotes Rav Nassim Karlitz and praises it. ]
## Megilat Sefer (pg 268) s.v. Min HaAmur writes that if one rips a plastic bag bag open in a destructive way it’s [[Muktzeh]] since it’s usual to throw out. However, Adnei Shlomo (pg 265, 308:204) argues based on the Rashba. the Chut HaSheni (Rav Nassim Karlitz; vol 3, chapter 51, pg 106) also argues that if it was not thrown out before [[Shabbat]] it’s not [[Muktzeh]]. [Matnat Yehuda (pg 317) quotes Rav Nassim Karlitz and praises it. ]
==Disputed Items==
==Disputed Items==
# If a button fell off of a shirt on Shabbat, according to some poskim, if one plans on using it to sew back onto the shirt it isn't muktzeh, but not if it is a standard button that one doesn't care to save because there are many like it available. Other poskim hold that it is totally muktzeh since it isn't useful right now.<ref> Mishna Brurah 308:35 writes that the lid of a kli that fell off on Shabbat isn't muktzeh since it can be reattached. Tehillah LDovid 308:11 explains that even though it is forbidden to reattach it on Shabbat since it could be used to reattach after Shabbat it is still called a kli. He discusses whether this applies to all kelim that break or only those which are easily reattached like a door. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata ch. 15 fnt. 221) held that a button that fell off a shirt on Shabbat is the same as a door that fell off a container. Since it could be returned after Shabbat it is essentially a kli. Nonetheless, this only applies if it is a unique button to a unique shirt but if it is the standard one then a person doesn't usually care about saving it and so it isn't a kli. Az Nidberu 7:46 agrees. He added that if there's a type of item which required a professional to reattach it then it would be muktzeh. Shalmei Yehuda (p. 80) quotes Rav Elyashiv who questioned the proofs to be lenient. Rav Moshe Feinstein in Igrot Moshe 5:22:20 held that a button that fell off is really muktzeh since it is't useful.</ref>
# If a button fell off of a shirt on Shabbat, according to some poskim, if one plans on using it to sew back onto the shirt it isn't muktzeh, but not if it is a standard button that one doesn't care to save because there are many like it available. Other poskim hold that it is totally muktzeh since it isn't useful right now.<ref> Mishna Brurah 308:35 writes that the lid of a kli that fell off on Shabbat isn't muktzeh since it can be reattached. [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41315&st=&pgnum=123 Tehillah LDovid 308:11] explains that even though it is forbidden to reattach it on Shabbat since it could be used to reattach after Shabbat it is still called a kli. He discusses whether this applies to all kelim that break or only those which are easily reattached like a door. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 15:72) held that a button that fell off a shirt on Shabbat is the same as a door that fell off a container. Since it could be returned after Shabbat it is essentially a kli. Nonetheless, this only applies if it is a unique button to a unique shirt but if it is the standard one then a person doesn't usually care about saving it and so it isn't a kli. Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata concludes that it is proper to be strict. [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49531&st=&pgnum=203 Minchat Shabbat 88:2] and [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=880&pgnum=247 Az Nidberu 7:46] agree. He added that if there's a type of item which required a professional to reattach it then it would be muktzeh. Shalmei Yehuda (p. 80) quotes Rav Elyashiv who questioned the proofs to be lenient. Rav Moshe Feinstein in Igrot Moshe 5:22:20 held that a button that fell off is really muktzeh since it is't useful.</ref>
# If a Mezuzah fell on Shabbat, according to some poskim, it is muktzeh since it wasn't part of a kli before Shabbat. However, many poskim are lenient not to consider it muktzeh.<ref>Minchat Shabbat 88:38:7 held that the mezuzah which fell on Shabbat is muktzeh since it was attached to the house that isn't a kli and fell just like a door of a house which broke off on Shabbat is muktzeh (Shulchan Aurch 308:8). However, Rav Elyashiv (Shalmei Yehuda 1:12) and Rav Nissim Karelitz (Chut Shani Shabbat v. 3 50:1) are lenient because the mezuzah isn't considered a part of the house unlike a door.
# If a Mezuzah fell on Shabbat, according to some poskim, it is muktzeh since it wasn't part of a kli before Shabbat. However, many poskim are lenient not to consider it muktzeh.<ref>[http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49531&st=&pgnum=216 Minchat Shabbat 88:38:7] held that the mezuzah which fell on Shabbat is muktzeh since it was attached to the house that isn't a kli and fell just like a door of a house which broke off on Shabbat is muktzeh (Shulchan Aurch 308:8). However, Rav Elyashiv (Shalmei Yehuda 1:2, p. 28) is lenient because the mezuzah isn't considered a part of the house unlike a door.  Rav Nissim Karelitz (Chut Shani Shabbat v. 3 50:1:2) agrees if the mezuzah scroll could be opened and be used. </ref> Everyone agrees that if the mezuzah is in a disgraceful place it is permitted to move it to a dignified area.<ref>[http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14703&pgnum=101 Az Nidbaru 8:38] discusses whether the mezuzah is muktzeh machmat chisaron kis and if it fell if it should be muktzeh. He concludes that either way if it fell and is in a disgraceful position it is certainly permitted to be moved.</ref>


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