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* Pri Megadim E"A 485:1 explains that some hold that one doesn't fulfill the mitzvah even Biblically if one ate without leaning similar to Tosfot Sukkah 3a and Brachot 11a. Rav Ovadia in Chazon Ovadia v. 1 p. 197 points out that according to Ritva Sukkah 28a, Rashbetz Brachot 11a, Meiri and Ran Pesachim 116b who disagree with Tosfot one certainly fulfills one's Biblical mitzvah. </ref> | * Pri Megadim E"A 485:1 explains that some hold that one doesn't fulfill the mitzvah even Biblically if one ate without leaning similar to Tosfot Sukkah 3a and Brachot 11a. Rav Ovadia in Chazon Ovadia v. 1 p. 197 points out that according to Ritva Sukkah 28a, Rashbetz Brachot 11a, Meiri and Ran Pesachim 116b who disagree with Tosfot one certainly fulfills one's Biblical mitzvah. </ref> | ||
# If one forgot to lean while eating [[Matzah]] (of Motzei [[Matzah]]) one must repeat eating a Kezayit of [[Matzah]]. <ref> Even though the initial requirement of [[Matzah]] during Motzei [[Matzah]] is 2 Kezaytim, Mishna Brurah 472:22 rules that one only needs to repeat to eat one [[Kezayit]] of [[matzah]]. </ref> | # If one forgot to lean while eating [[Matzah]] (of Motzei [[Matzah]]) one must repeat eating a Kezayit of [[Matzah]]. <ref> Even though the initial requirement of [[Matzah]] during Motzei [[Matzah]] is 2 Kezaytim, Mishna Brurah 472:22 rules that one only needs to repeat to eat one [[Kezayit]] of [[matzah]]. </ref> | ||
#If one forgot to lean during Afikoman one should Lechatchila eat it again while leaning. However if it’s difficult to eat another Afikoman or one already said [[Birkat HaMazon]] one can rely on the lenient opinions and not eat Afikoman again. <ref> Mishna Brurah 472:22 writes that if a person forgot to lean for [[afikomen]] he shouldn’t have another afikomen. But in Shaar Hatziyun 477:4 he contradicts himself. Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe OC 3:67 answers that once someone already said [[birkat hamazon]] one shouldn’t go back and have another afikomen otherwise one should. Rav Nevinsal in BeYitzchak Yikrah 472:22 on Mishna Brurah agrees. Halichot Shlomo ch. 9 fnt. 106 writes that once a person has intention of finishing his afikomen he can’t eat anymore even to have another afikomen. See Shulchan Aruch 478:1 which implies that there’s no issue of having two Afikomens. See also Minchat | #If one forgot to lean during Afikoman one should Lechatchila eat it again while leaning. However if it’s difficult to eat another Afikoman or one already said [[Birkat HaMazon]] one can rely on the lenient opinions and not eat Afikoman again. <ref> Mishna Brurah 472:22 writes that if a person forgot to lean for [[afikomen]] he shouldn’t have another afikomen. But in Shaar Hatziyun 477:4 he contradicts himself. | ||
Accordingly, Sh”t Chazon Ovadyah 45 rules that one should eat the Afikoman again unless one already said [[Birkat HaMazon]] or it’s difficult to repeat. http://www.dailyhalacha.com/Display.asp?ClipDate=3/21/2010</ref> | * Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe OC 3:67 answers that once someone already said [[birkat hamazon]] one shouldn’t go back and have another afikomen because it causes making more brachot, otherwise one should. Rav Nevinsal in BeYitzchak Yikrah 472:22 on Mishna Brurah agrees. See Rav Shalom Felman in Moriah 415-417 p. 107 writes that the distinction is before and after birkat hamazon but for another reason. As long as it is part of the meal anything one eats counts towards the matzah mitzvah (Netsiv) or the last kezayit is automatically the afikomen (Griz). But after birkat hamazon the eating is considered disconnected and optional and therefore an issue of eating anything after afikomen. | ||
* Halichot Shlomo ch. 9 fnt. 106 writes that once a person has intention of finishing his afikomen he can’t eat anymore even to have another afikomen. See Shoneh Halachot Tikunim 472:11 who agrees with Rav Shlomo Zalman. See Shulchan Aruch 478:1 which implies that there’s no issue of having two Afikomens. | |||
* See also Minchat Yitzchak 9:46-47 who is troubled by this. Accordingly, Sh”t Chazon Ovadyah 45 rules that one should eat the Afikoman again unless one already said [[Birkat HaMazon]] or it’s difficult to repeat. http://www.dailyhalacha.com/Display.asp?ClipDate=3/21/2010 agrees. </ref> | |||
# The shamash (servant) is obligated in leaning. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 472:6. Kesef Mishna (Hilchot Chametz UMatzah 7) explains that the Shamash is obligated even though he's involved in the preparations of the meal because an Eved Ivri is supposed to be treated like a master. </ref> | # The shamash (servant) is obligated in leaning. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 472:6. Kesef Mishna (Hilchot Chametz UMatzah 7) explains that the Shamash is obligated even though he's involved in the preparations of the meal because an Eved Ivri is supposed to be treated like a master. </ref> | ||
