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# Ashkenzim who have the Minhag to pray at Tzet, should light at Shkiah before praying Mariv at Tzet. If Tzet came and one didn’t light he should first pray and then light. However some have the Minhag to always light after praying Mariv. One should set up the chanukia and candles before Tzet so that after Mariv one can light right away. <ref> Mishna Brurah 672:1 in name of Mor Ukesiah and the Minhag of the Gra to light before they prayed at Tzet, if one didn’t light until Tzet one prays first because of Tadir and that Shema is Deoritta. He also records the practice of some who would always light after Mariv. So writes Torat HaMoadim 4:8. One should set it up beforehand as per Mishna Brurah 672:1 and Kaf Hachaim 672:6. </ref>
# Ashkenzim who have the Minhag to pray at Tzet, should light at Shkiah before praying Mariv at Tzet. If Tzet came and one didn’t light he should first pray and then light. However some have the Minhag to always light after praying Mariv. One should set up the chanukia and candles before Tzet so that after Mariv one can light right away. <ref> Mishna Brurah 672:1 in name of Mor Ukesiah and the Minhag of the Gra to light before they prayed at Tzet, if one didn’t light until Tzet one prays first because of Tadir and that Shema is Deoritta. He also records the practice of some who would always light after Mariv. So writes Torat HaMoadim 4:8. One should set it up beforehand as per Mishna Brurah 672:1 and Kaf Hachaim 672:6. </ref>
# If one has an established minyan for Mariv very late, one can light earlier at Tzet. <ref> Yeshuot Yacov 681:1, Sh”t Az Nidabru 9:47, Sh”t Teshuvot VeHanhagot 2:338, Mitzvah Ner Ish Ubeto 6 footnote 4, and Rav Elyashiv quoted in Halichot Yosef ph 239 say that the reason of Tadir (and that Shema is Deoritta) only applies if the two mitzvoth (mariv and candles) are both available at the same time, but if one’s mariv minyan isn’t until later, one can light earlier at the appropriate time. </ref>
# If one has an established minyan for Mariv very late, one can light earlier at Tzet. <ref> Yeshuot Yacov 681:1, Sh”t Az Nidabru 9:47, Sh”t Teshuvot VeHanhagot 2:338, Mitzvah Ner Ish Ubeto 6 footnote 4, and Rav Elyashiv quoted in Halichot Yosef ph 239 say that the reason of Tadir (and that Shema is Deoritta) only applies if the two mitzvoth (mariv and candles) are both available at the same time, but if one’s mariv minyan isn’t until later, one can light earlier at the appropriate time. </ref>
== Friday Afternoon==
# One should light Chanuka candles before Shabbat candles. <ref> Bahag, Tur and S”A 679. </ref> It sufficies to light one of the Chanuka candles and while finishing to light the rest of the candles, the woman can start lightng the Shabbat candles. <ref> Ben Ish Chai Vayeshev 20, Yalkut Yosef Moadim pg 235, Moed Kol Chai 27:17. </ref>
# One should place the candles in a place that it won’t go out because of wind or the door opening so it doesn’t go out before a half hour after Tzet. <ref> Yalkut Yosef Moadim pg 235 </ref>
# One should pray Mincha before lighting candles, but if one can’t find an early minyan it’s better to light candles and then daven Mincha with a minyan. <ref> Yalkut Yosef (Moadim pg 213) explains that Chanuka candles are supposed to be lit after mincha as in the Bet Hamikdash the Menorah was lit after the afternoon Tamid. (Brachot 26b). Sh”t Yabea Omer 5:44, Yacheve Daat 1:74, Kitzur Sheni Luchot Habrit pg 93d, Sh”t Sur Yacov 136, and Eliyah Raba 679:1 say to light before praying Mincha if one can’t find an earlier minyan. However, Pri Megadim A”A 671:10 says to pray individually earlier rather than light before Mincha. </ref>
# One needs to put in enough oil that the candle will burn for a half hour after Tzet. Thus one shouldn’t light too early on Friday afternoon, rather one should light 15 minutes before Shkiah. If there’s not enough oil to last the half hour after Tzet there’s a possible bracha levatala. <ref> Maamer Mordechai 679:2, Chaye Adam 154:18, Mikrah Kodesh Belekutei Rima 16:7, Machsit HaShekel 679 and Chazon Ovadyah pg 71 say that if one doesn’t put enough oil to last a half hour past Tzet one doesn’t fulfill the mitzvah at all. However the Pri Megadim A”A 672 writes that it’s enough for it to burn a half hour and it doesn’t need to last until after Tzet. [However Pri Megadim A”A 679:2 writes according to Magan Avraham one needs it to burn a half hour past Tzet.] Also Chemed Moshe 679 it’s enough if it burns until Tzet. Chazon Ovadyah concludes that one must be careful to have enough oil for a half hour past Tzet but if one lit without that amount and then realizes this before Shabbat he should relight with the required amount without a bracha because of the opinions that allow that. </ref>
# It’s the Minhag not to say Bameh Madlikin on Friday night Chanuka. <ref> Birkei Yosef 270:2, Sh”t Rav Poalim O”C 4:34e, Neveh Shalom Chazan, Nahar Mitzrayim 270, and Yalkut Yosef Moadim pg 236. </ref>


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