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# Regarding merchandise that can be sold, if the owner is particular not to use it, it’s Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis, however, if the owner isn’t concerned that it’ll get ruined, it’s not [[Muktzeh]]. <Ref>The Bet Yosef 308:1 asks how the Rambam could write that merchandise is Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis if the Gemara [[Shabbat]] 19b implies that it isn't [[Muktzeh]] according to Rabbi Shimon and he concludes that if the owner is concerned about using it then it is Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis, but if he isn't concerned it isn't [[Muktzeh]]. Rama 308:1 and Mishna Brurah 308:7 codify this as halacha. Chazon Ish 42:16 clarifies that merchandise can be Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis even if the item is otherwise a [[Kli SheMelachto LeHeter]]. Shulchan Aruch HaRav 308:4 and Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 20:21 agree.</ref> | # Regarding merchandise that can be sold, if the owner is particular not to use it, it’s Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis, however, if the owner isn’t concerned that it’ll get ruined, it’s not [[Muktzeh]]. <Ref>The Bet Yosef 308:1 asks how the Rambam could write that merchandise is Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis if the Gemara [[Shabbat]] 19b implies that it isn't [[Muktzeh]] according to Rabbi Shimon and he concludes that if the owner is concerned about using it then it is Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis, but if he isn't concerned it isn't [[Muktzeh]]. Rama 308:1 and Mishna Brurah 308:7 codify this as halacha. Chazon Ish 42:16 clarifies that merchandise can be Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis even if the item is otherwise a [[Kli SheMelachto LeHeter]]. Shulchan Aruch HaRav 308:4 and Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 20:21 agree.</ref> | ||
# Food merchandise according to some poskim isn't considered muktzeh machmat chisaron kis.<ref>Rav Nevinsal in Byitzchak Yikreh 308:1</ref> | |||
# Some say that Muktza Machmat Chisaron Kis only applies to vessels that are already Kli SheMelachto LeIssur but not to vessels that are [[Kli SheMelachto LeHeter]].<reF>Shulchan Aruch HaRav 308:4, Yalkut Yosef (vol 2, pp. 328-332) | # Some say that Muktza Machmat Chisaron Kis only applies to vessels that are already Kli SheMelachto LeIssur but not to vessels that are [[Kli SheMelachto LeHeter]].<reF>Shulchan Aruch HaRav 308:4, Yalkut Yosef (vol 2, pp. 328-332) | ||
Can you have muktzeh machmat chisaron kis for a kli shemelachto lheter? | Can you have muktzeh machmat chisaron kis for a kli shemelachto lheter? | ||
