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## pictures on the wall <ref> Chazon Ish 43:17 considers it severe [[Muktzeh]], while Sh”t Igrot Moshe 5:21(13), 22(12) considers it non-[[Muktzeh]]). If it is expensive, Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 20:22 writes that it is muktzeh machmat chisaron kis. </ref> | ## pictures on the wall <ref> Chazon Ish 43:17 considers it severe [[Muktzeh]], while Sh”t Igrot Moshe 5:21(13), 22(12) considers it non-[[Muktzeh]]). If it is expensive, Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 20:22 writes that it is muktzeh machmat chisaron kis. </ref> | ||
## clocks on the wall <ref> Chazon Ish 43:17 considers it severe [[Muktzeh]], while Sh”t Igrot Moshe 5:21(13), 22(12) considers it non-[[Muktzeh]]) </ref> | ## clocks on the wall <ref> Chazon Ish 43:17 considers it severe [[Muktzeh]], while Sh”t Igrot Moshe 5:21(13), 22(12) considers it non-[[Muktzeh]]) </ref> | ||
# Some poskim write that a wallet is muktzeh machmat chisaron kis, while most poskim only consider it a kli shemelachto lisur.<ref> | |||
* The Raavan 378 writes that a wallet designated for money is muktzeh like grogrot and compares it to a bed designated for money. The Hagahot Maimoniyot 25 cites this. Rama 310:7 does as well. Rama 310:7 explains that it isn’t completely muktzeh but rather only considered like a kli shemelachto lisur, while the Magen Avraham 310:5 holds it is completely muktzeh. Bet Meir 310:7 and Mishna Brurah 310:27 agree with the Rama. Why would the Magen Avraham say that the wallet is completely muktzeh? | |||
* Rav Soloveitchik (Shiurei Rav Soloveitchik on Shabbat by Rav Schachter pp. 115-7) explained that the main idea of Rabbenu Tam is that anything which has no use on Shabbat is forbidden as complete muktzeh. That can take the form of muktzeh machmat chisaron kis or kli she’kol melachto l’isur. According to Rav Moshe (igrot Moshe 5:22:13), we can explain that yichud makom isn’t critical at all. The main idea of muktzeh machat chisaron kis isn’t designation of place but that you wouldn’t use it for another use.</ref> | |||
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