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# A board of wood which is owned by a carpenter or a store owner who plans on selling is Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis if it’s the usual case where the owner is concerned about using it for other purposes (sitting on it) so that it doesn’t break. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 308:26 </ref>
# A board of wood which is owned by a carpenter or a store owner who plans on selling is Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis if it’s the usual case where the owner is concerned about using it for other purposes (sitting on it) so that it doesn’t break. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 308:26 </ref>
# Some say that it is permitted to move muktzeh machmat chisaron kis by placing something permitted on top of it, however, most hold that this is forbidden.<ref>Rosh 22:8:4 writes that it is permitted to move any kli shemelachto lisur if you place upon it something permitted such as a piece of bread. That solution doesn’t work for real muktzeh but does work for any kli. Rabbi Akiva Eiger 305:7 suggests that the same should apply to muktzeh machmat chisaron kis. Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 57 cites the Chazon Ish 47:11, Or Letzion 2:26:4 who same at the same should apply. However, the Taz 311:5 and Tosefet Shabbat 308:23 imply otherwise. Pri Megadim M”Z 4 has a doubt about this. Chazon Ovadia concludes that one should be strict.</ref>
# Some say that it is permitted to move muktzeh machmat chisaron kis by placing something permitted on top of it, however, most hold that this is forbidden.<ref>Rosh 22:8:4 writes that it is permitted to move any kli shemelachto lisur if you place upon it something permitted such as a piece of bread. That solution doesn’t work for real muktzeh but does work for any kli. Rabbi Akiva Eiger 305:7 suggests that the same should apply to muktzeh machmat chisaron kis. Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 57 cites the Chazon Ish 47:11, Or Letzion 2:26:4 who same at the same should apply. However, the Taz 311:5 and Tosefet Shabbat 308:23 imply otherwise. Pri Megadim M”Z 4 has a doubt about this. Chazon Ovadia concludes that one should be strict.</ref>
# It is permitted to move muktzeh machmat chisaron kis with one's body like all muktzeh.<ref>Pri Megadim M"Z 308 introduction points out that the Bet Yosef in his introduction to 308 implies that the leniencies of all of muktzeh such as moving it with one's body or tiltul min hasad don't apply to muktzeh machmat chisaron kis. [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41315&st=&pgnum=119 Tehilah LDovid 308:2] disagrees with this understanding of the Bet Yosef and is lenient. Imrei Shem pp. 111-122 (R' Refaeli Mordechai Eliyahu) defends the Pri Megadim.</ref>
# It is permitted to move muktzeh machmat chisaron kis with one's body like all muktzeh.<ref>Pri Megadim M"Z 308 introduction points out that the Bet Yosef in his introduction to 308 implies that the leniencies of all of muktzeh such as moving it with one's body or tiltul min hasad don't apply to muktzeh machmat chisaron kis. [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41315&st=&pgnum=119 Tehilah LDovid 308:2] disagrees with this understanding of the Bet Yosef and is lenient. Imrei Shem pp. 111-122 (R' Refaeli Mordechai Eliyahu) defends the Pri Megadim. Yalkut Yosef Shabbat v. 2 p. 317 fnt. 4 quotes Rav Ovadia as holding like the Tehillah Ldovid.</ref>
# Tiltul min hasad is permitted for muktzeh machmat chisaron kis like all other muktzeh.<ref> Pri Megadim M"Z 309:2 writes that according to the Bet Yosef there is no leniency of tiltul min hasad for muktzeh machmat chisaron kis. [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41315&st=&pgnum=119 Tehillah LDovid 308:2] and Tosefet Shabbat 308:3 disagree. Kaf Hachaim 308:10 is lenient. Imrei Shem pp. 111-122 (R' Refaeli Mordechai Eliyahu) defends the Pri Megadim.</ref>
# Tiltul min hasad is permitted for muktzeh machmat chisaron kis like all other muktzeh.<ref> Pri Megadim M"Z 309:2 writes that according to the Bet Yosef there is no leniency of tiltul min hasad for muktzeh machmat chisaron kis. [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41315&st=&pgnum=119 Tehillah LDovid 308:2] and Tosefet Shabbat 308:3 disagree. Kaf Hachaim 308:10 is lenient. Imrei Shem pp. 111-122 (R' Refaeli Mordechai Eliyahu) defends the Pri Megadim. Yalkut Yosef Shabbat v. 2 p. 317 fnt. 4 quotes Rav Ovadia as holding like the Tehillah Ldovid.</ref>


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