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# The Sephardic custom is to put one [[Hadas]] and one [[Aravah]] on the left of the [[lulav]], one [[Hadas]] in the middle but slightly to the right , and one [[Hadas]] and one [[Aravah]] on the right side. <Ref> Magen Avraham 651:4 quoting the Arizal writes that one should put one [[Hadas]] and one [[Aravah]] on the left of the [[lulav]], one [[Hadas]] in the middle together with the [[Lulav]], and one [[Hadas]] and one [[Aravah]] on the right side. The Shaar HaTziyun 651:11 quotes the Pri Megadim who says that one shouldn’t follow that practice unless one is known for his piety. However, Yalkut Yosef (Moadim pg 160, [[Sukkot]] p. 75) writes that the Sephardic custom is to follow the Arizal. The Chazon Ovadyah ([[Sukkot]] pg 343) also quotes the Magen Avraham. </ref> However, the Ashkenazic custom is to set up the [[Hadasim]] to the right of the [[Lulav]] and the [[Aravot]] to the left. <ref>Mishna Brurah 651:12, Nitei Gavriel (Arba Minim 40:4). Mishna Brurah there adds that this is true for a lefty as well. </ref>
# The Sephardic custom is to put one [[Hadas]] and one [[Aravah]] on the left of the [[lulav]], one [[Hadas]] in the middle but slightly to the right , and one [[Hadas]] and one [[Aravah]] on the right side. <Ref> Magen Avraham 651:4 quoting the Arizal writes that one should put one [[Hadas]] and one [[Aravah]] on the left of the [[lulav]], one [[Hadas]] in the middle together with the [[Lulav]], and one [[Hadas]] and one [[Aravah]] on the right side. The Shaar HaTziyun 651:11 quotes the Pri Megadim who says that one shouldn’t follow that practice unless one is known for his piety. However, Yalkut Yosef (Moadim pg 160, [[Sukkot]] p. 75) writes that the Sephardic custom is to follow the Arizal. The Chazon Ovadyah ([[Sukkot]] pg 343) also quotes the Magen Avraham. </ref> However, the Ashkenazic custom is to set up the [[Hadasim]] to the right of the [[Lulav]] and the [[Aravot]] to the left. <ref>Mishna Brurah 651:12, Nitei Gavriel (Arba Minim 40:4). Mishna Brurah there adds that this is true for a lefty as well. </ref>
#It is a mitzva to tie the [[lulav]] together, but if you don't it is still kosher. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 651:1. Mishna Brurah 651:8 explains although we don't hold like the shita of Rabbi Yehuda on sukka 11b who says that you need to tie it together, there is still the mitzva of hiddur mitzva from the pasuk of  זֶה אֵלִי וְאַנְוֵהוּ. Yalkut Yosef Moadim 159, Chazon Ovadia [[sukkot]] 340 </ref>
#It is a mitzva to tie the [[lulav]] together, but if you don't it is still kosher. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 651:1. Mishna Brurah 651:8 explains although we don't hold like the shita of Rabbi Yehuda on sukka 11b who says that you need to tie it together, there is still the mitzva of hiddur mitzva from the pasuk of  זֶה אֵלִי וְאַנְוֵהוּ. Yalkut Yosef Moadim 159, Chazon Ovadia [[sukkot]] 340 </ref>
#Sephardim should tie the three together with [[lulav]] leaves in three places using double knots, <ref> Shulchan Aruch 651:1, Chazon Ovadia [[sukkot]] 342 quotes the Sefer Yiraim 124 also and says that is the custom. He also quotes the Chatam Sofer sukka 36b as saying that since the mitzva of hiddur is objective based on what the torah told us, we should only use the double knots made of [[lulav]] leaves and not use the handles that they have nowadays.  Mishna Brurah 651:14 quotes the Mordechai explaining that these three ties are representative of the three patriarchs </ref> while Ashkenazim generally use the woven holder made of [[lulav]] leaves that has holes for the three minim, in addition to the three ties. <ref> Mishna Brurah 651:8 quoting the Shu"t Agura Biohalecha (12:273). Tzitz Eliezer 13:43 agrees to this as well. </ref>  
#Sephardim should tie the three together with [[lulav]] leaves in three places using double knots, <ref> Shulchan Aruch 651:1, Chazon Ovadia [[sukkot]] 342 quotes the Sefer Yiraim 124 also and says that is the custom. He also quotes the Chatam Sofer sukka 36b as saying that since the mitzva of hiddur is objective based on what the torah told us, we should only use the double knots made of [[lulav]] leaves and not use the handles that they have nowadays.  Mishna Brurah 651:14 quotes the Mordechai explaining that these three ties are representative of the three patriarchs </ref> while Ashkenazim generally use the woven holder made of [[lulav]] leaves that has holes for the three minim, in addition to the three ties. <ref> Mishna Brurah 651:8 quoting the Shu"t Agura Biohalecha (12:273). Tzitz Eliezer 13:43 agrees to this as well. </ref> this holder is traditionally known as a ''keshetil''.
#The minimum length for the [[lulav]] is four [[Tefachim]], and the minimum length for [[hadasim]] and [[aravot]] is three [[Tefachim]]. There is no maximum length, however, if your [[hadasim]] or [[aravot]] are longer than 3 than your [[lulav]] has to remain at least a [[tefach]] taller so that at least part of it will shake recognizably. <ref> sukka 32b with Ritva, Ran, and Meiri there. Rambam Hilchot sukka 7:8 agrees too. </ref>
#The minimum length for the [[lulav]] is four [[Tefachim]], and the minimum length for [[hadasim]] and [[aravot]] is three [[Tefachim]]. There is no maximum length, however, if your [[hadasim]] or [[aravot]] are longer than 3 than your [[lulav]] has to remain at least a [[tefach]] taller so that at least part of it will shake recognizably. <ref> sukka 32b with Ritva, Ran, and Meiri there. Rambam Hilchot sukka 7:8 agrees too. </ref>
# One should make sure to tie it up so that the [[Hadasim]] are above the [[Aravot]]. <Ref>Rama 651:1, Mishna Brurah 651:12, Nitei Gavriel 40:8, Chazon Ovadyah ([[Sukkot]] pg 343-4) </ref>
# One should make sure to tie it up so that the [[Hadasim]] are above the [[Aravot]]. <Ref>Rama 651:1, Mishna Brurah 651:12, Nitei Gavriel 40:8, Chazon Ovadyah ([[Sukkot]] pg 343-4) </ref>
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