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Since we are supposed to make the beracha before doing the mitzva (over liasiyatan) <ref> Pesachim 7a </ref>
Since we are supposed to make the beracha before doing the mitzva (over liasiyatan) <ref> Pesachim 7a </ref>
# Since we fulfill the mitzva of arba minim by simply lifting them together <ref> Sukka 42a </ref>  it’s preferable to follow one of the following so that you say the beracha and then do the mitzva. Either  
# Since we fulfill the mitzva of arba minim by simply lifting them together <ref> Sukka 42a </ref>  it’s preferable to follow one of the following so that you say the beracha and then do the mitzva. Either  
* take the lulav (including the Hadashim and Aravot) in one’s right hand, leave the Etrog on the Table (out of the box) <ref>As the rambam says in Hilchot Succa 7:5 the taking of the daled minim are all one mitzva and are miakev each other(meaning taking 3 without the 4th doesn't fulfill anything.) </ref>  
* take the lulav (including the Hadashim and Aravot) in one’s right hand, leave the Etrog on the Table (out of the box) <ref> As the rambam says in Hilchot Succa 7:5 the taking of the daled minim are all one mitzva and are miakev each other (meaning taking 3 without the 4th doesn't fulfill anything.) therefore, until you take the etrog you haven't fulfilled your obligation, then you say the beracha, and then fulfill your obligation. </ref>  
* or take the Lulav in one’s right hand, and Etrog in one’s left hand while the Etrog is upside down <ref> Holding the etrog upside down allows you not to fulfill your obligation until you flip it over because the gemara succa 45b that in order to fulfill the mitzva of taking the daled minim all four have to be held kiderech gideilatan"-the way in which they grow. </ref>
* or take the Lulav in one’s right hand, and Etrog in one’s left hand while the Etrog is upside down <ref> Holding the etrog upside down allows you not to fulfill your obligation until you flip it over because the gemara succa 45b that in order to fulfill the mitzva of taking the daled minim all four have to be held kiderech gideilatan"-the way in which they grow. </ref>
* or take the Lulav and Etrog in their upright positions and have in mind not to fulfill the mitzvah until you make the Bracha.  
* or take the Lulav and Etrog in their upright positions and have in mind not to fulfill the mitzvah until you make the Bracha.  

Revision as of 22:13, 13 October 2011

Based on the pasuk ולקחתם לכם ביום הראשון פרי עץ הדר כפות תמרים וענף עץ עבות וערבי נחל And ye shall take you on the first day the fruit of goodly trees, branches of palm-trees, and boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook we learn that we need to take lulav, one etrog, three hadasim and two aravot.[1]

Set up of the Arba Minim

  1. The Sephardic custom is to put one Hadas and one Aravah on the left of the lulav, one Hadas in the middle together with the Lulav, and one Hadas and one Aravah on the right side. [2] However, the Ashkenazic custom is to set up the Hadasim to the right of the Lulav and the Aravot to the left. [3]
  2. One should make sure to tie it up so that the Hadasim are above the Aravot. [4]

When to make the Bracha

Since we are supposed to make the beracha before doing the mitzva (over liasiyatan) [5]

  1. Since we fulfill the mitzva of arba minim by simply lifting them together [6] it’s preferable to follow one of the following so that you say the beracha and then do the mitzva. Either
  • take the lulav (including the Hadashim and Aravot) in one’s right hand, leave the Etrog on the Table (out of the box) [7]
  • or take the Lulav in one’s right hand, and Etrog in one’s left hand while the Etrog is upside down [8]
  • or take the Lulav and Etrog in their upright positions and have in mind not to fulfill the mitzvah until you make the Bracha.

and then make the Bracha. After one makes the Bracha one should pick up the Etrog in his left hand. [9]

  1. After the fact if one took all four species (before making the Bracha), one may still make the Bracha as long as one didn’t shake it yet. [10]

References

  1. Succa 34b based on Vayikra 23:40
  2. Magan Avraham 651:4 quoting the Arizal writes that one should put one Hadas and one Aravah on the left of the lulav, one Hadas in the middle together with the Lulav, and one Hadas and one Aravah on the right side. The Shaar HaTzion 651:11 quotes the Pri Megadim who says that one shouldn’t follow that practice unless one is known for his piety. However, Yalkut Yosef (Moadim pg 160) writes that the Sephardic custom is to follow the Arizal. The Chazon Ovadyah (Sukkot pg 343) also quotes the Magan Avraham.
  3. Mishna Brurah 651:12, Natai Gavriel (Arba Minim 40:4)
  4. Rama 651:1, Natai Gavriel 40:8, Chazon Ovadyah (Sukkot pg 343-4)
  5. Pesachim 7a
  6. Sukka 42a
  7. As the rambam says in Hilchot Succa 7:5 the taking of the daled minim are all one mitzva and are miakev each other (meaning taking 3 without the 4th doesn't fulfill anything.) therefore, until you take the etrog you haven't fulfilled your obligation, then you say the beracha, and then fulfill your obligation.
  8. Holding the etrog upside down allows you not to fulfill your obligation until you flip it over because the gemara succa 45b that in order to fulfill the mitzva of taking the daled minim all four have to be held kiderech gideilatan"-the way in which they grow.
  9. All three suggestions are made by tosafot in Succa 29a "over". S”A 651:5 suggests the first two suggestions, while the Mishna Brurah 651:25 quotes the Bet Yosef who brings the third option and quotes the Gra as saying that the third option is the most preferable. The Mishna Brurah makes no mention of which option is preferable. Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 651:14) also brings all three opinions and doesn’t decide on which is most preferable.
  10. Rosh Succa 3:33, Chayei Adam 148:11 Mishna Brurah 651:27 and Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 651:14). The Bikkurei Yaakov 651:20extends it to the entire hallel and the Aruch Hashulchan 651:14 says that as long as your still holding your lulav you can still say the beracha. Shaar Hatziyun 651:32 however rejects this opinion.