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==Setting the Table==
==Setting the Table==
# One should set his table before [[Yom Tov]] so that one can eat the Seudah right after Tzet HaChochavim. <ref> Tur and S”A 472:1. Aruch HaShulchan 472:2 writes that another reason why we should have the table set before [[Yom Tov]] is to have the table set for many hours beofre a meal like the tables of kings. </ref> One doesn’t actually have to start the Seder right after Tzet but the table should be set so it’s possible to start right away. <ref> Mishna Brurah 472:1 explains that it’s not precise when S”A writes that the table should be set so that one can start right after it gets dark rather it means that it should be possible to start then. Chazon Ovadyah (Pesach part 2, pg 5) concurs. However, Or Samech (Hilchot Chametz UMatzeh 7:3) suggests that since Matzah is compared to Pesach, just like [[Pesach]] is supposed to be eaten right after Tzet so too the Matzah is supposed to be eaten right after Tzet. </ref>
# One should set his table before [[Yom Tov]] so that one can eat the Seudah right after Tzet HaChochavim. <ref> Tur and S”A 472:1. Aruch HaShulchan 472:2 writes that another reason why we should have the table set before [[Yom Tov]] is to have the table set for many hours beofre a meal like the tables of kings. </ref> One doesn’t actually have to start the Seder right after Tzet but the table should be set so it’s possible to start right away. <ref> Mishna Brurah 472:1 explains that it’s not precise when S”A writes that the table should be set so that one can start right after it gets dark rather it means that it should be possible to start then. Chazon Ovadyah (Pesach part 2, pg 5) concurs. However, Or Samech (Hilchot Chametz UMatzeh 7:3) suggests that since [[Matzah]] is compared to Pesach, just like [[Pesach]] is supposed to be eaten right after Tzet so too the [[Matzah]] is supposed to be eaten right after Tzet. </ref>
#One should set the table with nice utensils according to what one can afford. <ref> Tur and S”A 672:2. Mishna Brurah 472:5 adds that one should nice utensils even though during the rest of the year one should refrain from using the best utensils because of Zecher LeChurban (to commemorate the destruction of the temple; [[Zecher_LeChurban]]). </ref>
#One should set the table with nice utensils according to what one can afford. <ref> Tur and S”A 672:2. Mishna Brurah 472:5 adds that one should nice utensils even though during the rest of the year one should refrain from using the best utensils because of Zecher LeChurban (to commemorate the destruction of the temple; [[Zecher_LeChurban]]). </ref>
# One should set the chairs so that it is possible to lean properly while eating and drinking. <ref> Tur and S”A 472:2 </ref>
# One should set the chairs so that it is possible to lean properly while eating and drinking. <ref> Tur and S”A 472:2 </ref>
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# On [[Shabbat]], it is considered Borer to take the small bugs attached to the Maror leaves, however it is permissible if one take a bit of the leaf with the bug. Nonetheless, it isn't considered Borer to remove a large worm that stands independent of the leaf. <ref> Semirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata (3 note 102) </ref>
# On [[Shabbat]], it is considered Borer to take the small bugs attached to the Maror leaves, however it is permissible if one take a bit of the leaf with the bug. Nonetheless, it isn't considered Borer to remove a large worm that stands independent of the leaf. <ref> Semirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata (3 note 102) </ref>
==Seder Plate (Kaarah)==
==Seder Plate (Kaarah)==
# Not everyone at the Seder needs to have their own three Matzahs and it’s enough that the one running the Seder has three Matzahs, however, in order that there be enough for everyone to receive a [[Kezayit]] from a broken matzah and a [[Kezayit]] from a whole matzah the one running the Seder should have the required amount of whole and broken matzahs. <Ref> Rav Schachter on [http://www.ou.org/torah/article/oukosher_pre-pesach_webcast_5771 OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5771] between minutes 90 and 91 </ref>Some, however, argue that everyone should have their own three matzot so that there is enough so that each person have enough matzah for the mitzvah.<ref>Igrot Moshe 5:16:4</ref>
# Not everyone at the Seder needs to have their own three [[Matzah]]s and it’s enough that the one running the Seder has three [[Matzah]]s, however, in order that there be enough for everyone to receive a [[Kezayit]] from a broken matzah and a [[Kezayit]] from a whole matzah the one running the Seder should have the required amount of whole and broken matzahs. <Ref> Rav Schachter on [http://www.ou.org/torah/article/oukosher_pre-pesach_webcast_5771 OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5771] between minutes 90 and 91 </ref>Some, however, argue that everyone should have their own three matzot so that there is enough so that each person have enough matzah for the mitzvah.<ref>Igrot Moshe 5:16:4</ref>
# The Kaarah should be set with the three Matzot, Maror, Charotzet, Karpas, and two cooked dishes (in commemoration of the [[Pesach]] and Chagigah Korbanot) and the minhag is to use a roasted shank bone and an egg. <ref> S”A and Rama 473:4 say that such is the minhag. The gemara in Pesachim 116a says that based on the pasuk of lechem oni, the matza should be broken and not whole, just like poor people's bread. Rif Pesachim 25b and Rambam Hilchot Chametz umatza 8:6 both rule that based on that there is no lechem mishna and we only have one whole and one broken. Tosafot Pesachim 116a "ma darko shel ani biprusa" says that we need to fulfill both lechem oni and lechem mishna so there is a requirement to have three matzas, two whole and the broken one. Shulchan Aruch 473:4 rules like tosafot. The Biur Hagra 473:4 rules like the Rambam because by having three you don't fulfill lechem oni. </ref>However, some have the practice of only using two Matzot. <ref>Haggadah of the Roshei Yeshivah (pg 14) records Rav Moshe's minhag to only use 2 matzot in accordance with the opinion of the Gra. See previous footnote.</ref>
# The Kaarah should be set with the three Matzot, Maror, Charotzet, Karpas, and two cooked dishes (in commemoration of the [[Pesach]] and Chagigah Korbanot) and the minhag is to use a roasted shank bone and an egg. <ref> S”A and Rama 473:4 say that such is the minhag. The gemara in Pesachim 116a says that based on the pasuk of lechem oni, the matza should be broken and not whole, just like poor people's bread. Rif Pesachim 25b and Rambam Hilchot Chametz umatza 8:6 both rule that based on that there is no lechem mishna and we only have one whole and one broken. Tosafot Pesachim 116a "ma darko shel ani biprusa" says that we need to fulfill both lechem oni and lechem mishna so there is a requirement to have three matzas, two whole and the broken one. Shulchan Aruch 473:4 rules like tosafot. The Biur Hagra 473:4 rules like the Rambam because by having three you don't fulfill lechem oni. </ref>However, some have the practice of only using two Matzot. <ref>Haggadah of the Roshei Yeshivah (pg 14) records Rav Moshe's minhag to only use 2 matzot in accordance with the opinion of the Gra. See previous footnote.</ref>
# Preferably the Kaarah should be set so that one doesn’t need to pass over one mitzvah to do another mitzvah and so one should put the Karpas is the highest/closest place because that’s the first mitzvah of the night. Afterwards, should be the Matzah, then the Maror, and finally the cooked dishes. However, some say it doesn’t matter where the cooked dishes or Maror are. <ref> Rama 473:4 says that one should arrange the Kaarah so that one doesn’t pass over the mitzvoth. Mishna Brurah 473:36 says in name of the Chok Yacov that it doesn’t matter where the Karpas is because it’s not a mitzvah (as it’s only a zecher lemikdash). Mishna Brurah (Shaar Tzion 473:33) brings a machloket whether the Maror has to be placed in the order so as not to place over it. </ref>
# Preferably the Kaarah should be set so that one doesn’t need to pass over one mitzvah to do another mitzvah and so one should put the Karpas is the highest/closest place because that’s the first mitzvah of the night. Afterwards, should be the [[Matzah]], then the Maror, and finally the cooked dishes. However, some say it doesn’t matter where the cooked dishes or Maror are. <ref> Rama 473:4 says that one should arrange the Kaarah so that one doesn’t pass over the mitzvoth. Mishna Brurah 473:36 says in name of the Chok Yacov that it doesn’t matter where the Karpas is because it’s not a mitzvah (as it’s only a zecher lemikdash). Mishna Brurah (Shaar Tzion 473:33) brings a machloket whether the Maror has to be placed in the order so as not to place over it. </ref>


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Revision as of 14:31, 31 March 2013

Setting the Table

  1. One should set his table before Yom Tov so that one can eat the Seudah right after Tzet HaChochavim. [1] One doesn’t actually have to start the Seder right after Tzet but the table should be set so it’s possible to start right away. [2]
  2. One should set the table with nice utensils according to what one can afford. [3]
  3. One should set the chairs so that it is possible to lean properly while eating and drinking. [4]
  4. One should distribute candies to the children so that they ask about the differences on the night of peasch. [5]

Preparing the food

  1. If Yom Tov falls out on Shabbat, one should do the Melacha of Borer to prepare food before the Seder because the meal isn't immediately connected to the beginning of the Seder. [6]
  2. On Shabbat, it is considered Borer to take the small bugs attached to the Maror leaves, however it is permissible if one take a bit of the leaf with the bug. Nonetheless, it isn't considered Borer to remove a large worm that stands independent of the leaf. [7]

Seder Plate (Kaarah)

  1. Not everyone at the Seder needs to have their own three Matzahs and it’s enough that the one running the Seder has three Matzahs, however, in order that there be enough for everyone to receive a Kezayit from a broken matzah and a Kezayit from a whole matzah the one running the Seder should have the required amount of whole and broken matzahs. [8]Some, however, argue that everyone should have their own three matzot so that there is enough so that each person have enough matzah for the mitzvah.[9]
  2. The Kaarah should be set with the three Matzot, Maror, Charotzet, Karpas, and two cooked dishes (in commemoration of the Pesach and Chagigah Korbanot) and the minhag is to use a roasted shank bone and an egg. [10]However, some have the practice of only using two Matzot. [11]
  3. Preferably the Kaarah should be set so that one doesn’t need to pass over one mitzvah to do another mitzvah and so one should put the Karpas is the highest/closest place because that’s the first mitzvah of the night. Afterwards, should be the Matzah, then the Maror, and finally the cooked dishes. However, some say it doesn’t matter where the cooked dishes or Maror are. [12]

Sources

  1. Tur and S”A 472:1. Aruch HaShulchan 472:2 writes that another reason why we should have the table set before Yom Tov is to have the table set for many hours beofre a meal like the tables of kings.
  2. Mishna Brurah 472:1 explains that it’s not precise when S”A writes that the table should be set so that one can start right after it gets dark rather it means that it should be possible to start then. Chazon Ovadyah (Pesach part 2, pg 5) concurs. However, Or Samech (Hilchot Chametz UMatzeh 7:3) suggests that since Matzah is compared to Pesach, just like Pesach is supposed to be eaten right after Tzet so too the Matzah is supposed to be eaten right after Tzet.
  3. Tur and S”A 672:2. Mishna Brurah 472:5 adds that one should nice utensils even though during the rest of the year one should refrain from using the best utensils because of Zecher LeChurban (to commemorate the destruction of the temple; Zecher_LeChurban).
  4. Tur and S”A 472:2
  5. S"A 472:16 based on Peschim 108
  6. Halichot Shlomo (Pesach, pg 215-6) writes that since Borer is only permitted when done immediately before a meal, concerning the Seder it is forbidden because the meal comes so long after the preparations, and it wouldn't be considered as doing Borer for eating immediately.
  7. Semirat Shabbat KeHilchata (3 note 102)
  8. Rav Schachter on OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5771 between minutes 90 and 91
  9. Igrot Moshe 5:16:4
  10. S”A and Rama 473:4 say that such is the minhag. The gemara in Pesachim 116a says that based on the pasuk of lechem oni, the matza should be broken and not whole, just like poor people's bread. Rif Pesachim 25b and Rambam Hilchot Chametz umatza 8:6 both rule that based on that there is no lechem mishna and we only have one whole and one broken. Tosafot Pesachim 116a "ma darko shel ani biprusa" says that we need to fulfill both lechem oni and lechem mishna so there is a requirement to have three matzas, two whole and the broken one. Shulchan Aruch 473:4 rules like tosafot. The Biur Hagra 473:4 rules like the Rambam because by having three you don't fulfill lechem oni.
  11. Haggadah of the Roshei Yeshivah (pg 14) records Rav Moshe's minhag to only use 2 matzot in accordance with the opinion of the Gra. See previous footnote.
  12. Rama 473:4 says that one should arrange the Kaarah so that one doesn’t pass over the mitzvoth. Mishna Brurah 473:36 says in name of the Chok Yacov that it doesn’t matter where the Karpas is because it’s not a mitzvah (as it’s only a zecher lemikdash). Mishna Brurah (Shaar Tzion 473:33) brings a machloket whether the Maror has to be placed in the order so as not to place over it.