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# Even though there is always a mitzvah to answer the bracha of a fellow Jew, there is an added reason why a person should answer [[Amen]] when one is listening to a bracha, which is in order to fulfill one's obligation. <ref> Mishna Brurah 213:17, Mishna Brurah 8:15, See Vezot HaBracha pg 362 regarding whether [[answering Amen]] makes it like the person listening said the entire Bracha. </ref>
# Even though there is always a mitzvah to answer the bracha of a fellow Jew, there is an added reason why a person should answer [[Amen]] when one is listening to a bracha, which is in order to fulfill one's obligation. <ref> Mishna Brurah 213:17, Mishna Brurah 8:15, See Vezot HaBracha pg 362 regarding whether [[answering Amen]] makes it like the person listening said the entire Bracha. </ref>
# In order to fulfill one’s obligation the listener must hear the whole bracha starting from the word Baruch. <Ref> Mishna Brurah 213:19, Shaar HaTziyun there mentions that if one did not hear some words, as long as they are not the crucial ones, one is still considered to have fulfilled the obligation by listening. (Shulchan Aruch 214:1 and Mishna Brurah 314:4 specify Baruch, either Hashem or Elokenu, Melech, and HaOlam and the conclusion as the crucial words). </ref> If one did miss part of the bracha some say that one can fill in that part by saying those specific words. <Ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 362) quoting Halichot Shlomo (Klali [[Brachot]] 11). </ref>
# In order to fulfill one’s obligation the listener must hear the whole bracha starting from the word Baruch. <Ref> Mishna Brurah 213:19, Shaar HaTziyun there mentions that if one did not hear some words, as long as they are not the crucial ones, one is still considered to have fulfilled the obligation by listening. (Shulchan Aruch 214:1 and Mishna Brurah 314:4 specify Baruch, either Hashem or Elokenu, Melech, and HaOlam and the conclusion as the crucial words). </ref> If one did miss part of the bracha some say that one can fill in that part by saying those specific words. <Ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 362) quoting Halichot Shlomo (Klali [[Brachot]] 11). </ref>
## Some say that if one answered Amen to the bracha even if one missed hearing part of it one fulfilled his obligation, therefore, after the fact one shouldn't recite the bracha again.<ref>Halacha Brurah 213:14 based on Rabbenu Yonah Brachot 35a and others</ref>
# If one was talking while listening to a bracha one has not fulfilled one’s obligation. <ref> Mishna Brurah 167:45. Vezot HaBracha pg 361 writes that it is possible that the Chazon Ish 141:7 who’s explanation of Shomea KeOneh is that the listener joins the bracha by actively listening would disagree. </ref>
# If one was talking while listening to a bracha one has not fulfilled one’s obligation. <ref> Mishna Brurah 167:45. Vezot HaBracha pg 361 writes that it is possible that the Chazon Ish 141:7 who’s explanation of Shomea KeOneh is that the listener joins the bracha by actively listening would disagree. </ref>
# According to the Moroccan custom, even one who is fulfilling a mitzvah via Shomea KeOneh should answer Baruch Hu Uvaruch Shemo to the bracha being said. <ref> Kitzur Shulchan Aruch of Rav Rephael Baruch Toledano, Volume 1, Page 111 </ref>
# According to the Moroccan custom, even one who is fulfilling a mitzvah via Shomea KeOneh should answer Baruch Hu Uvaruch Shemo to the bracha being said. <ref> Kitzur Shulchan Aruch of Rav Rephael Baruch Toledano, Volume 1, Page 111 </ref>
# The one making the bracha must have intent to fulfill the obligation of the one listening and the one listening to the bracha must have intent to fulfill his obligation through listening. <Ref> Mishna Brurah 213:5, 18 </ref>
# The one making the bracha must have intent to fulfill the obligation of the one listening and the one listening to the bracha must have intent to fulfill his obligation through listening. Otherwise one doesn't fulfill one's obligation.<Ref> Mishna Brurah 213:5, 18 </ref> Others argue that after the fact one fulfilled one's obligation.<ref>Halacha Brurah 213 fnt. 10 writes that we're concerned for the opinion that the need for kavana in shomea k'oneh depends on whether mitzvot need kavana in general (Bet Yosef 213:3 based on Rosh Hashana 29a). If so, according to the rishonim that mitzvot don't need kavana or particularly brachot derabbanan don't need kavana one would fulfill the bracha he heard even if he and the one speaking didn't have kavana. Shulchan Aruch Harav 213:4 is also concerned for this opinion as well. See further Chazon Ovadia Brachot 353 and Birkat Hashem 1:4:1.</ref>
# Listening to someone's bracha with Shomea Konah isn't permitted in front of ervah since one couldn't possibly have said it oneself.<ref>Mishna Brurah 75:29</ref>
# Listening to someone's bracha with Shomea Konah isn't permitted in front of ervah since one couldn't possibly have said it oneself.<ref>Mishna Brurah 75:29</ref>
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