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===Attending Non-Jewish Weddings===
 
===Attending Non-Jewish Weddings===
  
#One is forbidden from eating and drinking at a non-Jewish wedding even if one brings their own food to the wedding.<ref>Avoda Zara 8a, The gemara explains that the issue of eating and drinking at the wedding of a non-Jew is that one will come to do Avoda Zara. </ref><ref>Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 152:1</ref> Some, however, say that it is forbidden to even attend the wedding of a non-Jew even if one does not intend to eat the food there.<ref>Ben Yisrael Lenachri 152:1, There is a discussion in the rishonim whether one can go to a non-Jewish wedding and not eat or if one is forbidden from attending the wedding whether one intends to eat or not. The Taz 152:1 implies that it is forbidden to attend the non-Jewish wedding even if one does not intend to eat at the wedding. </ref>  
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#One is forbidden from eating and drinking at a non-Jewish wedding even if one brings their own food to the wedding.<ref>Avoda Zara 8a, The gemara explains that the issue of eating and drinking at the wedding of a non-Jew is that one will come to do Avoda Zara. </ref><ref>Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 152:1</ref> Some, however, say that it is forbidden to even attend the wedding of a non-Jew even if one does not intend to eat the food there.<ref>Ben Yisrael Lenachri 152:1, There is a discussion in the rishonim whether one can go to a non-Jewish wedding and not eat or if one is forbidden from attending the wedding whether one intends to eat or not. The Taz 152:1 implies that it is forbidden to attend the non-Jewish wedding even if one does not intend to eat at the wedding. </ref>
 
#Some say that eating and drinking at the wedding of a Muslim is allowed.<ref>Yabia Omer Section 10, Yoreh Deah 13, Rav Ovadia argues that since Muslims are not idol worshipers the prohibition of eating and drinking at a non-Jewish wedding does not apply to Muslim weddings. </ref> Others argue that attending the wedding of any non-Jew, even if the non-Jew is a Muslim, is forbidden.<ref>Ben Yisrael Lenachri pg. 398, According to view that it is forbidden to eat and drink at the wedding of a Muslim, the issue of eating and drinking at the wedding of a non-Jew is that it will lead to intermarriage. Therefore, it is still an issue to eat and drink at the wedding of a muslim as this practice may lead to intermarriage. </ref>
 
#Some say that eating and drinking at the wedding of a Muslim is allowed.<ref>Yabia Omer Section 10, Yoreh Deah 13, Rav Ovadia argues that since Muslims are not idol worshipers the prohibition of eating and drinking at a non-Jewish wedding does not apply to Muslim weddings. </ref> Others argue that attending the wedding of any non-Jew, even if the non-Jew is a Muslim, is forbidden.<ref>Ben Yisrael Lenachri pg. 398, According to view that it is forbidden to eat and drink at the wedding of a Muslim, the issue of eating and drinking at the wedding of a non-Jew is that it will lead to intermarriage. Therefore, it is still an issue to eat and drink at the wedding of a muslim as this practice may lead to intermarriage. </ref>
 
#'''Kullah Mishum eiva'''
 
#'''Kullah Mishum eiva'''
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===Attending Office Parties===
 
===Attending Office Parties===
  
#Most hold one can go to office parties<ref name=":2">[https://www.torahmusings.com/2013/12/bars-and-office-parties-in-jewish-law-ii/#fn-19570-42 Rabbi J. David Bleich]</ref> (especially to receive a bonus, for example), but some say that one should not linger around if it's not necessary.<ref>[https://www.torahmusings.com/2013/12/bars-and-office-parties-in-jewish-law-ii/#fnref-19570-32 Rabbi Hershel Schachter]</ref> Some say one may not attend altogether.<ref>Shut Mishne Halachot 7:118</ref>
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#Most hold one can go to office parties<ref name=":2">[https://www.torahmusings.com/2013/12/bars-and-office-parties-in-jewish-law-ii/#fn-19570-42 Rabbi J. David Bleich]</ref> (preferably only for business reasons, such as to receive a bonus, for example), but some say that one should not linger around if it's not necessary.<ref>[https://www.torahmusings.com/2013/12/bars-and-office-parties-in-jewish-law-ii/#fnref-19570-32 Rabbi Hershel Schachter]</ref> <ref name=":3">[https://torah.org/torah-portion/weekly-halacha-5767-miketz/ Rabbi Doniel Neustadt]</ref> Some say one may not attend altogether.<ref>Shut Mishne Halachot 7:118</ref>  
 
#All agree that one should not attend an office party that has a sign up sheet (or the like) as opposed to a formal invitation.<ref name=":2" />
 
#All agree that one should not attend an office party that has a sign up sheet (or the like) as opposed to a formal invitation.<ref name=":2" />
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#If there is no Avodah Zara present, attending office holiday parties generally has the same considerations as other office parties.<ref name=":3" />
  
 
===Links===
 
===Links===
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#[https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/878315/rabbi-yoni-levin/meeting-for-coffee-at-starbucks-social-drinking-with-co-workers/ Shiur from Rav Yoni Levin]
 
#[https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/878315/rabbi-yoni-levin/meeting-for-coffee-at-starbucks-social-drinking-with-co-workers/ Shiur from Rav Yoni Levin]
 
#[https://www.torahmusings.com/2013/12/bars-and-office-parties-in-jewish-law-ii/#fn-19570-42 Article by Jonathan Ziring in Torah Musings]
 
#[https://www.torahmusings.com/2013/12/bars-and-office-parties-in-jewish-law-ii/#fn-19570-42 Article by Jonathan Ziring in Torah Musings]
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#[https://torah.org/torah-portion/weekly-halacha-5767-miketz/ Article by Rabbi Doniel Neustadt]
  
 
==Sources==
 
==Sources==
 
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[[Category:Interactions with Non-Jews]]
 
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Revision as of 20:19, 22 July 2019

Drinking With Non-Jews in a Non-Jewish Store or House

  1. In social situations with non-Jews, Sephardim may not drink any beer.[1][2] Ashkenazi custom is more lenient and they may drink anything besides date honey beer. [3] However, there are a wide range of opinions, and many still adopt a strict approach in these situations.[4][5]
  2. Having tea or coffee in a non-Jewish store with non-Jews is allowed, but many advise against this practice.[4] See page on Marit Ayin for relevant halachot in these situations.
  3. Add that its muttar once you take it out of their house. And some there are machmir.

Attending Parties With Non-Jews

  1. One is not allowed to drink any alcohol or eat any food at a party provided that there are more non-Jews than Jews at his table or immediate social group at the party.[6][7] Some say the prohibition also applies to a case where there are an equal amount of Jews and non-Jews.[8]
  2. Where there are more Jews than non-Jews in one's social group or table at a party, the prohibitions do not apply.[6]
  3. DISCUSS KULAH
  4. Rambam only writes wine and the divrei david says (Been Yisral Leamin) .... Rav Moshe argues (Discussion on liquor)

Attending Non-Jewish Weddings

  1. One is forbidden from eating and drinking at a non-Jewish wedding even if one brings their own food to the wedding.[9][10] Some, however, say that it is forbidden to even attend the wedding of a non-Jew even if one does not intend to eat the food there.[11]
  2. Some say that eating and drinking at the wedding of a Muslim is allowed.[12] Others argue that attending the wedding of any non-Jew, even if the non-Jew is a Muslim, is forbidden.[13]
  3. Kullah Mishum eiva

Attending Office Parties

  1. Most hold one can go to office parties[14] (preferably only for business reasons, such as to receive a bonus, for example), but some say that one should not linger around if it's not necessary.[15] [16] Some say one may not attend altogether.[17]
  2. All agree that one should not attend an office party that has a sign up sheet (or the like) as opposed to a formal invitation.[14]
  3. If there is no Avodah Zara present, attending office holiday parties generally has the same considerations as other office parties.[16]

Links

  1. Shiur from Rav Yoni Levin
  2. Article by Jonathan Ziring in Torah Musings
  3. Article by Rabbi Doniel Neustadt

Sources

  1. Shulchan Aruch 114:1, Kaf HaChaim 114:11
  2. Avoda Zara 31b, The Gemara discusses that the issue of drinking with non-Jews is due to the fact that this may lead to intermarriage between Jews and non-Jews.
  3. Rama Yoreh Deah 114:1
  4. 4.0 4.1 Chelkat Binyamin 114:22
  5. Aruch Hashulchan 114:6, The Aruch Hashulchan notes that the decree by the rabbis of the gemara regarding beer was less strict than the decree by the rabbis of the mishnah regarding wine. The rabbis of the gemara did not feel the need to make as strict of a decree as wine has more of an intoxicating power than beer (Tehillim 105:15) and the rabbis of the gemara felt uncomfortable enacting as severe of a decree as the rabbis of the mishna.
  6. 6.0 6.1 Rambam Ma'achalot Asurot 17:9-10
  7. Gemara Avoda Zara 8a
  8. Pri Chadash 114:1
  9. Avoda Zara 8a, The gemara explains that the issue of eating and drinking at the wedding of a non-Jew is that one will come to do Avoda Zara.
  10. Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 152:1
  11. Ben Yisrael Lenachri 152:1, There is a discussion in the rishonim whether one can go to a non-Jewish wedding and not eat or if one is forbidden from attending the wedding whether one intends to eat or not. The Taz 152:1 implies that it is forbidden to attend the non-Jewish wedding even if one does not intend to eat at the wedding.
  12. Yabia Omer Section 10, Yoreh Deah 13, Rav Ovadia argues that since Muslims are not idol worshipers the prohibition of eating and drinking at a non-Jewish wedding does not apply to Muslim weddings.
  13. Ben Yisrael Lenachri pg. 398, According to view that it is forbidden to eat and drink at the wedding of a Muslim, the issue of eating and drinking at the wedding of a non-Jew is that it will lead to intermarriage. Therefore, it is still an issue to eat and drink at the wedding of a muslim as this practice may lead to intermarriage.
  14. 14.0 14.1 Rabbi J. David Bleich
  15. Rabbi Hershel Schachter
  16. 16.0 16.1 Rabbi Doniel Neustadt
  17. Shut Mishne Halachot 7:118