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==Passing the Challah== | ==Passing the Challah== | ||
# One shouldn’t give the [[Challah]] directly into the hands of someone else but rather one should place it down on a plate or the table to pass it to someone else. <Ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1 pg 312), Piskei Teshuvot (Siman 274 note 7) </ref> | # One shouldn’t give the [[Challah]] directly into the hands of someone else but rather one should place it down on a plate or the table to pass it to someone else. <Ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1 pg 312), Piskei Teshuvot (Siman 274 note 7) </ref> | ||
# One should not throw the challah across the table. <Ref>Rabbi David Yosef (Halacha Brurah Vol: pg. 49, Magen Avraham 167:38, Pri Megadim | # One should not throw the challah across the table. <Ref>Rabbi David Yosef (Halacha Brurah Vol: pg. 49, Magen Avraham 167:38, Pri Megadim E"A 167:38, Mishnah Brurah 167:88, Minhag Yisroel Torah 167:4, [http://halachayomit.co.il/EnglishDefault.asp?HalachaID=2821 Throwing Bread] on Halacha Yomit </ref> | ||
# The one who made hamotzei should take a bite of the first piece and then cut the rest of the pieces.<ref>Mishna Brurah 167:79 quotes the achronim who say that initially one shouldn’t cut the challah for everyone listening before eating since that is a hefsek initially but after the fact it isn’t an issue.</ref> However, some have the practice to cut all of the pieces and only then eat. <ref>[Rav Hershel Schachter (Brachot Shiur 92 min 30)] said that his father’s practice was to cut all of the pieces of challah before he ate. He felt that was more derech eretz to cut up for everyone before you start to eat yourself. It is in line with the Rama 167:15.</ref> In that case the others have to wait to eat their piece until the one who made a bracha eats.<ref>Gemara Brachot 47a, Shulchan Aruch OC 167:15</ref> | |||
==How much to eat== | ==How much to eat== | ||
# It is preferable to eat slightly more than a KeBaytzeh of bread for the meals of [[Shabbat]], however, many say that after the fact one fulfills one's obligation by eating only a [[Kezayit]]. <ref> | # It is preferable to eat slightly more than a KeBaytzeh of bread for the meals of [[Shabbat]], however, many say that after the fact one fulfills one's obligation by eating only a [[Kezayit]].<ref> | ||
* The Behag ([[Shabbat]] chap. 16) says that one should eat the three meals of [[Shabbat]] and it is permissible separate the two daytime meals by covering the table, making [[Birkat HaMazon]], and then [[HaMotzei]] and eating a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread. The Ran ([[Shabbat]] 43b s.v. Tanu) quotes this Behag. The Tur 291:1 writes that one should eat a [[KeBaytzah]] for [[Seudat Shelishit]]. The Bet Yosef 291:1 explains that the Tur is following the Behag. What's the reason to have a [[KeBaytzah]]? | * The Behag ([[Shabbat]] chap. 16) says that one should eat the three meals of [[Shabbat]] and it is permissible separate the two daytime meals by covering the table, making [[Birkat HaMazon]], and then [[HaMotzei]] and eating a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread. The Ran ([[Shabbat]] 43b s.v. Tanu) quotes this Behag. The Tur 291:1 writes that one should eat a [[KeBaytzah]] for [[Seudat Shelishit]]. The Bet Yosef 291:1 explains that the Tur is following the Behag. What's the reason to have a [[KeBaytzah]]? | ||
* (1) The Bach 291:3 writes that the reason to have a [[KeBaytzah]] is that it is preferable to have a Kebaytzeh in order to be obligated to make [[Birkat HaMazon]], even though the actual standard halacha is that someone who ate only a [[Kezayit]] one is obligated to make [[Birkat HaMazon]]. The Eliyah Rabba (291:3) and Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag [[Shabbat]] chap 16), however, reject the Bach because they understand that there's no preference for having a [[KeBaytzah]] in terms of [[Birkat HaMazon]]. | * (1) The Bach 291:3 writes that the reason to have a [[KeBaytzah]] is that it is preferable to have a Kebaytzeh in order to be obligated to make [[Birkat HaMazon]], even though the actual standard halacha is that someone who ate only a [[Kezayit]] one is obligated to make [[Birkat HaMazon]]. The Eliyah Rabba (291:3) and Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag [[Shabbat]] chap 16), however, reject the Bach because they understand that there's no preference for having a [[KeBaytzah]] in terms of [[Birkat HaMazon]]. | ||
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* (3) The Beiur HaGra 291:2 writes that the amount of a [[KeBaytzah]] is learned out from Hilchot [[Sukkah]]. The Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag [[Shabbat]] chap 16) asks that this explanation can not explain the position of Shulchan Aruch who holds that in Hilchot [[Sukkah]] (Shulchan Aruch 639:2) a significant meal is more than a KeBeytzah. [http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=22238&st=&pgnum=197 Birkat Eliyahu] (commentary to Bieur HaGra 291:2) answers that the Gra thought that really everyone agrees that a significant meal is a [[KeBaytzah]], but for [[Sukkot]] the reason a significant meal is defined as more than a KeBaytzeh is because by [[Sukkot]] we're supposed to dwell in the [[Sukkah]] just as we dwell indoors. | * (3) The Beiur HaGra 291:2 writes that the amount of a [[KeBaytzah]] is learned out from Hilchot [[Sukkah]]. The Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag [[Shabbat]] chap 16) asks that this explanation can not explain the position of Shulchan Aruch who holds that in Hilchot [[Sukkah]] (Shulchan Aruch 639:2) a significant meal is more than a KeBeytzah. [http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=22238&st=&pgnum=197 Birkat Eliyahu] (commentary to Bieur HaGra 291:2) answers that the Gra thought that really everyone agrees that a significant meal is a [[KeBaytzah]], but for [[Sukkot]] the reason a significant meal is defined as more than a KeBaytzeh is because by [[Sukkot]] we're supposed to dwell in the [[Sukkah]] just as we dwell indoors. | ||
* (4) Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag [[Shabbat]] chap 16, authored by Rav Zev Wolf Ben Aryeh, father of Rav Yisrael Salanter) explains that the Behag is only discussing a case where one wants to have [[Seudat Shelishit]] immediately following the [[Shabbat]] day meal and in order to show that [[Seudat Shelishit]] is a significant meal, one needs to eat a [[KeBaytzah]], but in general if [[Seudat Shelishit]] was eaten as a separate meal, one only needs to eat a [[Kezayit]] for the meals of [[Shabbat]]. | * (4) Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag [[Shabbat]] chap 16, authored by Rav Zev Wolf Ben Aryeh, father of Rav Yisrael Salanter) explains that the Behag is only discussing a case where one wants to have [[Seudat Shelishit]] immediately following the [[Shabbat]] day meal and in order to show that [[Seudat Shelishit]] is a significant meal, one needs to eat a [[KeBaytzah]], but in general if [[Seudat Shelishit]] was eaten as a separate meal, one only needs to eat a [[Kezayit]] for the meals of [[Shabbat]]. | ||
* What's the halacha? Shulchan Aruch 291:1 codifies the Tur's statement that one should eat a Kebaytzeh for [[Seudat Shelishit]]. The [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9150&st=&pgnum=142&hilite= Malbushei [[Yom Tov]] 291:1] in fact argues that he sees no reason that one be obligated to eat more than a [[Kezayit]] as the Gemara [[Shabbat]] 119b says that a [[Kezayit]] is sufficient for the [[Friday night meal]]. [The Sh"t Maharil (end of Siman 94) and Radvaz 1:489 seem to only require a [[Kezayit]].] Eliyah Rabba 291:3 quotes this. See the Machasit HaShekel who answers the Malbushei [[Yom Tov]]'s question from the Gemara [[Shabbat]]. The Mishna Brurah 291:2 quotes the Magen Avraham who says that one should eat more than a [[KeBaytzah]], however, some say one only needs a [[Kezayit]] and he concludes that preferably if one is able, one should be strict to have a Kebaytzeh. Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 54:20 agrees. Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1, p. 313) writes that for the [[Friday night meal]] and [[Shabbat]] day meal one needs to have a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread and if that’s difficult one may have a [[Kezayit]] of bread (and in such a case one should wash without a Bracha). </ref>However, if one only eats a [[Kezayit]], according to many opinions one shouldn't say the Bracha of [[Al Netilat Yadayim]] when washing for the bread. <Ref>See [[Netilat_Yadayim_for_a_meal#Minimum_amount_of_bread_to_obligate_Netilat_Yadayim]].</ref> | * What's the halacha? Shulchan Aruch 291:1 codifies the Tur's statement that one should eat a Kebaytzeh for [[Seudat Shelishit]]. The [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9150&st=&pgnum=142&hilite= Malbushei [[Yom Tov]] 291:1] in fact argues that he sees no reason that one be obligated to eat more than a [[Kezayit]] as the Gemara [[Shabbat]] 119b says that a [[Kezayit]] is sufficient for the [[Friday night meal]]. [The Sh"t Maharil (end of Siman 94) and Radvaz 1:489 seem to only require a [[Kezayit]].] Eliyah Rabba 291:3 quotes this. See the Machasit HaShekel who answers the Malbushei [[Yom Tov]]'s question from the Gemara [[Shabbat]]. The Mishna Brurah 291:2 quotes the Magen Avraham who says that one should eat more than a [[KeBaytzah]], however, some say one only needs a [[Kezayit]] and he concludes that preferably if one is able, one should be strict to have a Kebaytzeh. Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 54:20 agrees. Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1, p. 313) writes that for the [[Friday night meal]] and [[Shabbat]] day meal one needs to have a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread and if that’s difficult one may have a [[Kezayit]] of bread (and in such a case one should wash without a Bracha). </ref> However, if one only eats a [[Kezayit]], according to many opinions one shouldn't say the Bracha of [[Al Netilat Yadayim]] when washing for the bread. <Ref>See [[Netilat_Yadayim_for_a_meal#Minimum_amount_of_bread_to_obligate_Netilat_Yadayim]].</ref> | ||
# One should make sure to eat a [[Kezayit]] of the bread for the meals of [[Shabbat]] within Shiur [[Kedi Achilat Pras]].<ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1, p. 313) writes that one should eat a [[Kezayit]] of bread for the meals of [[Shabbat]] within the time of [[Kedi Achilat Pras]]. </ref> | # One should make sure to eat a [[Kezayit]] of the bread for the meals of [[Shabbat]] within Shiur [[Kedi Achilat Pras]].<ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1, p. 313) writes that one should eat a [[Kezayit]] of bread for the meals of [[Shabbat]] within the time of [[Kedi Achilat Pras]]. </ref> | ||
# For the Bracha on honey [[challah]], see [[Pas_Haba_Bikisnin#Honey_Challah]]. | # For the Bracha on honey [[challah]], see [[Pas_Haba_Bikisnin#Honey_Challah]]. | ||
==Which Challah to break== | ==Which Challah to break== | ||
# On Friday night, one should cut the lower of the two loaves. On [[Shabbat]] morning and [[Yom Tov]] night and morning one should cut the upper of the two loaves. <Ref>S”A and Rama 274:1 </ref> | # On Friday night, one should cut the lower of the two loaves. On [[Shabbat]] morning and [[Yom Tov]] night and morning one should cut the upper of the two loaves. <Ref>S”A and Rama 274:1 </ref> | ||
