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# It is preferable to eat slightly more than a KeBaytzeh of bread for the meals of [[Shabbat]], however, many say that after the fact one fulfills one's obligation by eating only a [[Kezayit]]. <ref> | # It is preferable to eat slightly more than a KeBaytzeh of bread for the meals of [[Shabbat]], however, many say that after the fact one fulfills one's obligation by eating only a [[Kezayit]].<ref> | ||
* The Behag ([[Shabbat]] chap. 16) says that one should eat the three meals of [[Shabbat]] and it is permissible separate the two daytime meals by covering the table, making [[Birkat HaMazon]], and then [[HaMotzei]] and eating a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread. The Ran ([[Shabbat]] 43b s.v. Tanu) quotes this Behag. The Tur 291:1 writes that one should eat a [[KeBaytzah]] for [[Seudat Shelishit]]. The Bet Yosef 291:1 explains that the Tur is following the Behag. What's the reason to have a [[KeBaytzah]]? | * The Behag ([[Shabbat]] chap. 16) says that one should eat the three meals of [[Shabbat]] and it is permissible separate the two daytime meals by covering the table, making [[Birkat HaMazon]], and then [[HaMotzei]] and eating a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread. The Ran ([[Shabbat]] 43b s.v. Tanu) quotes this Behag. The Tur 291:1 writes that one should eat a [[KeBaytzah]] for [[Seudat Shelishit]]. The Bet Yosef 291:1 explains that the Tur is following the Behag. What's the reason to have a [[KeBaytzah]]? | ||
* (1) The Bach 291:3 writes that the reason to have a [[KeBaytzah]] is that it is preferable to have a Kebaytzeh in order to be obligated to make [[Birkat HaMazon]], even though the actual standard halacha is that someone who ate only a [[Kezayit]] one is obligated to make [[Birkat HaMazon]]. The Eliyah Rabba (291:3) and Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag [[Shabbat]] chap 16), however, reject the Bach because they understand that there's no preference for having a [[KeBaytzah]] in terms of [[Birkat HaMazon]]. | * (1) The Bach 291:3 writes that the reason to have a [[KeBaytzah]] is that it is preferable to have a Kebaytzeh in order to be obligated to make [[Birkat HaMazon]], even though the actual standard halacha is that someone who ate only a [[Kezayit]] one is obligated to make [[Birkat HaMazon]]. The Eliyah Rabba (291:3) and Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag [[Shabbat]] chap 16), however, reject the Bach because they understand that there's no preference for having a [[KeBaytzah]] in terms of [[Birkat HaMazon]]. | ||
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* (3) The Beiur HaGra 291:2 writes that the amount of a [[KeBaytzah]] is learned out from Hilchot [[Sukkah]]. The Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag [[Shabbat]] chap 16) asks that this explanation can not explain the position of Shulchan Aruch who holds that in Hilchot [[Sukkah]] (Shulchan Aruch 639:2) a significant meal is more than a KeBeytzah. [http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=22238&st=&pgnum=197 Birkat Eliyahu] (commentary to Bieur HaGra 291:2) answers that the Gra thought that really everyone agrees that a significant meal is a [[KeBaytzah]], but for [[Sukkot]] the reason a significant meal is defined as more than a KeBaytzeh is because by [[Sukkot]] we're supposed to dwell in the [[Sukkah]] just as we dwell indoors. | * (3) The Beiur HaGra 291:2 writes that the amount of a [[KeBaytzah]] is learned out from Hilchot [[Sukkah]]. The Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag [[Shabbat]] chap 16) asks that this explanation can not explain the position of Shulchan Aruch who holds that in Hilchot [[Sukkah]] (Shulchan Aruch 639:2) a significant meal is more than a KeBeytzah. [http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=22238&st=&pgnum=197 Birkat Eliyahu] (commentary to Bieur HaGra 291:2) answers that the Gra thought that really everyone agrees that a significant meal is a [[KeBaytzah]], but for [[Sukkot]] the reason a significant meal is defined as more than a KeBaytzeh is because by [[Sukkot]] we're supposed to dwell in the [[Sukkah]] just as we dwell indoors. | ||
* (4) Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag [[Shabbat]] chap 16, authored by Rav Zev Wolf Ben Aryeh, father of Rav Yisrael Salanter) explains that the Behag is only discussing a case where one wants to have [[Seudat Shelishit]] immediately following the [[Shabbat]] day meal and in order to show that [[Seudat Shelishit]] is a significant meal, one needs to eat a [[KeBaytzah]], but in general if [[Seudat Shelishit]] was eaten as a separate meal, one only needs to eat a [[Kezayit]] for the meals of [[Shabbat]]. | * (4) Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag [[Shabbat]] chap 16, authored by Rav Zev Wolf Ben Aryeh, father of Rav Yisrael Salanter) explains that the Behag is only discussing a case where one wants to have [[Seudat Shelishit]] immediately following the [[Shabbat]] day meal and in order to show that [[Seudat Shelishit]] is a significant meal, one needs to eat a [[KeBaytzah]], but in general if [[Seudat Shelishit]] was eaten as a separate meal, one only needs to eat a [[Kezayit]] for the meals of [[Shabbat]]. | ||
* What's the halacha? Shulchan Aruch 291:1 codifies the Tur's statement that one should eat a Kebaytzeh for [[Seudat Shelishit]]. The [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9150&st=&pgnum=142&hilite= Malbushei [[Yom Tov]] 291:1] in fact argues that he sees no reason that one be obligated to eat more than a [[Kezayit]] as the Gemara [[Shabbat]] 119b says that a [[Kezayit]] is sufficient for the [[Friday night meal]]. [The Sh"t Maharil (end of Siman 94) and Radvaz 1:489 seem to only require a [[Kezayit]].] Eliyah Rabba 291:3 quotes this. See the Machasit HaShekel who answers the Malbushei [[Yom Tov]]'s question from the Gemara [[Shabbat]]. The Mishna Brurah 291:2 quotes the Magen Avraham who says that one should eat more than a [[KeBaytzah]], however, some say one only needs a [[Kezayit]] and he concludes that preferably if one is able, one should be strict to have a Kebaytzeh. Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 54:20 agrees. Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1, p. 313) writes that for the [[Friday night meal]] and [[Shabbat]] day meal one needs to have a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread and if that’s difficult one may have a [[Kezayit]] of bread (and in such a case one should wash without a Bracha). </ref>However, if one only eats a [[Kezayit]], according to many opinions one shouldn't say the Bracha of [[Al Netilat Yadayim]] when washing for the bread. <Ref>See [[Netilat_Yadayim_for_a_meal#Minimum_amount_of_bread_to_obligate_Netilat_Yadayim]].</ref> | * What's the halacha? Shulchan Aruch 291:1 codifies the Tur's statement that one should eat a Kebaytzeh for [[Seudat Shelishit]]. The [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9150&st=&pgnum=142&hilite= Malbushei [[Yom Tov]] 291:1] in fact argues that he sees no reason that one be obligated to eat more than a [[Kezayit]] as the Gemara [[Shabbat]] 119b says that a [[Kezayit]] is sufficient for the [[Friday night meal]]. [The Sh"t Maharil (end of Siman 94) and Radvaz 1:489 seem to only require a [[Kezayit]].] Eliyah Rabba 291:3 quotes this. See the Machasit HaShekel who answers the Malbushei [[Yom Tov]]'s question from the Gemara [[Shabbat]]. The Mishna Brurah 291:2 quotes the Magen Avraham who says that one should eat more than a [[KeBaytzah]], however, some say one only needs a [[Kezayit]] and he concludes that preferably if one is able, one should be strict to have a Kebaytzeh. Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 54:20 agrees. Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1, p. 313) writes that for the [[Friday night meal]] and [[Shabbat]] day meal one needs to have a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread and if that’s difficult one may have a [[Kezayit]] of bread (and in such a case one should wash without a Bracha). </ref> However, if one only eats a [[Kezayit]], according to many opinions one shouldn't say the Bracha of [[Al Netilat Yadayim]] when washing for the bread. <Ref>See [[Netilat_Yadayim_for_a_meal#Minimum_amount_of_bread_to_obligate_Netilat_Yadayim]].</ref> | ||
# One should make sure to eat a [[Kezayit]] of the bread for the meals of [[Shabbat]] within Shiur [[Kedi Achilat Pras]].<ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1, p. 313) writes that one should eat a [[Kezayit]] of bread for the meals of [[Shabbat]] within the time of [[Kedi Achilat Pras]]. </ref> | # One should make sure to eat a [[Kezayit]] of the bread for the meals of [[Shabbat]] within Shiur [[Kedi Achilat Pras]].<ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1, p. 313) writes that one should eat a [[Kezayit]] of bread for the meals of [[Shabbat]] within the time of [[Kedi Achilat Pras]]. </ref> | ||
# For the Bracha on honey [[challah]], see [[Pas_Haba_Bikisnin#Honey_Challah]]. | # For the Bracha on honey [[challah]], see [[Pas_Haba_Bikisnin#Honey_Challah]]. | ||
==Which Challah to break== | ==Which Challah to break== | ||
# On Friday night, one should cut the lower of the two loaves. On [[Shabbat]] morning and [[Yom Tov]] night and morning one should cut the upper of the two loaves. <Ref>S”A and Rama 274:1 </ref> | # On Friday night, one should cut the lower of the two loaves. On [[Shabbat]] morning and [[Yom Tov]] night and morning one should cut the upper of the two loaves. <Ref>S”A and Rama 274:1 </ref> | ||
