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* (3) The Beiur HaGra 291:2 writes that the amount of a [[KeBaytzah]] is learned out from Hilchot Sukkah. The Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag Shabbat chap 16) asks that this explanation can not explain the position of Shulchan Aruch who holds that in Hilchot Sukkah (S"A 639:2) a significant meal is more than a KeBeytzah. [http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=22238&st=&pgnum=197 Birkat Eliyahu] (commentary to Bieur HaGra 291:2) answers that the Gra thought that really everyone agrees that a significant meal is a KeBaytzah, but for Sukkot the reason a significant meal is defined as more than a KeBaytzeh is because by Sukkot we're supposed to dwell in the Sukkah just as we dwell indoors. | * (3) The Beiur HaGra 291:2 writes that the amount of a [[KeBaytzah]] is learned out from Hilchot Sukkah. The Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag Shabbat chap 16) asks that this explanation can not explain the position of Shulchan Aruch who holds that in Hilchot Sukkah (S"A 639:2) a significant meal is more than a KeBeytzah. [http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=22238&st=&pgnum=197 Birkat Eliyahu] (commentary to Bieur HaGra 291:2) answers that the Gra thought that really everyone agrees that a significant meal is a KeBaytzah, but for Sukkot the reason a significant meal is defined as more than a KeBaytzeh is because by Sukkot we're supposed to dwell in the Sukkah just as we dwell indoors. | ||
* (4) Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag Shabbat chap 16, authored by Rav Zev Wolf Ben Aryeh, father of Rav Yisrael Salanter) explains that the Behag is only discussing a case where one wants to have Seudat Shelishit immediately following the Shabbat day meal and in order to show that Seudat Shelishit is a significant meal, one needs to eat a KeBaytzah, but in general if Seudat Shelishit was eaten as a separate meal, one only needs to eat a [[Kezayit]] for the meals of Shabbat. | * (4) Hagahot Ben Aryeh (on Behag Shabbat chap 16, authored by Rav Zev Wolf Ben Aryeh, father of Rav Yisrael Salanter) explains that the Behag is only discussing a case where one wants to have Seudat Shelishit immediately following the Shabbat day meal and in order to show that Seudat Shelishit is a significant meal, one needs to eat a KeBaytzah, but in general if Seudat Shelishit was eaten as a separate meal, one only needs to eat a [[Kezayit]] for the meals of Shabbat. | ||
* What's the halacha? S"A 291:1 codifies the Tur's statement that one should eat a Kebaytzeh for Seudat Shelishit. The [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9150&st=&pgnum=142&hilite= Malbushei Yom Tov 291:1] in fact argues that he sees no reason that one be obligated to eat more than a [[Kezayit]] as the Gemara Shabbat 119b says that a [[Kezayit]] is sufficient for the Friday night meal. [The Sh"t Maharil (end of Siman 94) and Radvaz 1:489 seem to only require a Kezayit.] Eliyah Rabba 291:3 quotes this. See the Machasit HaShekel who answers the Malbushei Yom Tov's question from the Gemara Shabbat. The Mishna Brurah 291:2 quotes the Magen Avraham who says that one should eat more than a [[KeBaytzah]], however, some say one only needs a [[Kezayit]] and he concludes that preferably if one is able, one should be strict to have a Kebaytzeh. Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 54:20 agrees. Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1, p. 313) writes that for the Friday night meal and [[Shabbat]] day meal one needs to have a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread and if that’s difficult one may have a [[Kezayit]] of bread (and in such a case one should wash without a Bracha). </ref>However, if one only eats a Kezayit, according to many opinions one shouldn't say the Bracha of Al Netilat Yadayim when washing for the bread. <Ref>See [[Netilat_Yadayim_for_a_meal#Minimum_amount_of_bread_to_obligate_Netilat_Yadayim]].</ref> | * What's the halacha? S"A 291:1 codifies the Tur's statement that one should eat a Kebaytzeh for Seudat Shelishit. The [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=9150&st=&pgnum=142&hilite= Malbushei [[Yom Tov]] 291:1] in fact argues that he sees no reason that one be obligated to eat more than a [[Kezayit]] as the Gemara Shabbat 119b says that a [[Kezayit]] is sufficient for the Friday night meal. [The Sh"t Maharil (end of Siman 94) and Radvaz 1:489 seem to only require a Kezayit.] Eliyah Rabba 291:3 quotes this. See the Machasit HaShekel who answers the Malbushei [[Yom Tov]]'s question from the Gemara Shabbat. The Mishna Brurah 291:2 quotes the Magen Avraham who says that one should eat more than a [[KeBaytzah]], however, some say one only needs a [[Kezayit]] and he concludes that preferably if one is able, one should be strict to have a Kebaytzeh. Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 54:20 agrees. Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1, p. 313) writes that for the Friday night meal and [[Shabbat]] day meal one needs to have a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread and if that’s difficult one may have a [[Kezayit]] of bread (and in such a case one should wash without a Bracha). </ref>However, if one only eats a Kezayit, according to many opinions one shouldn't say the Bracha of Al Netilat Yadayim when washing for the bread. <Ref>See [[Netilat_Yadayim_for_a_meal#Minimum_amount_of_bread_to_obligate_Netilat_Yadayim]].</ref> | ||
# One should make sure to eat a [[Kezayit]] of the bread for the meals of Shabbat within Shiur Kedi Achilat Pras.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat vol 1, p. 313) writes that one should eat a [[Kezayit]] of bread for the meals of Shabbat within the time of Kedi Achilat Pras. </ref> | # One should make sure to eat a [[Kezayit]] of the bread for the meals of Shabbat within Shiur Kedi Achilat Pras.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat vol 1, p. 313) writes that one should eat a [[Kezayit]] of bread for the meals of Shabbat within the time of Kedi Achilat Pras. </ref> | ||
# For the Bracha on honey challah, see [[Pas_Haba_Bikisnin#Honey_Challah]]. | # For the Bracha on honey challah, see [[Pas_Haba_Bikisnin#Honey_Challah]]. | ||
